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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on June 12th 2012, 3:36 pm

is it ok to post links to music from youtube on my forum or will that fall into copyright category?

it's just links i don't allow embed on the forum.

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Re: music from youtube

Post by Akkii on June 12th 2012, 3:46 pm

You can.

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on June 12th 2012, 3:51 pm

thank Smile but i need it see if from a admin

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Re: music from youtube

Post by Akkii on June 12th 2012, 4:20 pm

Why you wouldn't can?
If you have Youtube code for videos...

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Re: music from youtube

Post by S-t-e-v-e- on June 12th 2012, 5:24 pm

because it music it could be class as copyright Wink with copyright they dont warn you they just delete your forum.. i just want to be 100% before i allow it to carry it on

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Re: music from youtube

Post by Sanket on June 12th 2012, 8:36 pm

Yes, you cannot post music. There could be copyright claims for the same.

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Post by Sanket on June 12th 2012, 8:49 pm

Rideem3 wrote:If HTML is enabled, you can copy the embed code from a YouTube video and paste it in a topic. That saves the copyright since it's being hosted on YouTube. Wink

I would like to differ.
In the TOS of Forumotion it mentions this. So basically the owner is responsible for the transmission of the content in any way via the service of Forumotion.

Responsibility of Contents
You acknowledge and convene that any information, code, data, text, software, music, sound, photograph, picture, graphics, video, chat, messages, feature, or any other content, if transmitted publicly or in private, are the only responsibility of the person from whom the content comes from.. This means that you are, and in any case, entirely responsible of any content that you upload/download, post, send by e-mail or transmitted by any other way, than via the services. In no circumstance, Forumotion.com will be held responsible in any way or any content from a user or from a third-party, including but not limited to, any mistake or omission in these contents, or for any loss or damage of any kind, by the fact of the use of these contents noticed and, sent by e-mail or transmitted in any way via the services.
http://www.forumotion.com/en/create-forum/terms-of-service.htm

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Re: music from youtube

Post by Sanket on June 12th 2012, 9:41 pm

Yes, you are responsible for the contents you post. So if its music thats posted on youtube, which can also have its claims can cause problems here.

Simply put, if i add movies on youtube & then post the links or embed it on youtube i am transmitting the content via my forum & i have to take responsibility & forumotion is not responsible. No one can file a suit against forumotion this way. If someone reports the forum, Forumotion will take action against the forum without hesitation.

I think thats how it is, because i remember in the past forums have been deleted for showing live streaming of football games. They as well embedded just a third party player to stream these, but it was the forum admin who was transmitting the stream.

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Post by Sanket on June 12th 2012, 9:51 pm

Thats exactly my point, if the content itself is Legal then you can post it.

But, most of the music posted on youtube I think don't have the rights to distribute it.

So its better not to take a chance since you are not aware if the music posted has the rights or doesn't. Only official channels on youtube can have the rights to distribute this music.

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Re: music from youtube

Post by S-t-e-v-e- on June 12th 2012, 11:53 pm

so it doesn't matter links still can be class as copyrighted?


here link to official channel
http://youtu.be/U5rLz5AZBIA

^^^ is that against forumotion rules

what about movies trailers ?


what about if I name the title of a song in a music forum would that be class as copyrighted also?

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Re: music from youtube

Post by Sissy on June 13th 2012, 12:08 am

Content Removed - Member Banned

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Re: music from youtube

Post by S-t-e-v-e- on June 13th 2012, 12:16 am

what about something like this

Artist:- Ludacris Feat. Nate Dogg
Song:- Area Codes
www.youtube.com

would this be fine?

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on June 13th 2012, 12:53 am

cool our music forum id pretty busy over the weekend..

now i know what i can and cant do i'm going make a music forum rules get some to mod it everyday.... i dont want my forum to be deleted without warning

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Re: music from youtube

Post by SLGray on June 13th 2012, 12:58 am

So is this solved now?


When your topic has been solved, ensure you mark the topic solved.
Never post your email in public.


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Re: music from youtube

Post by kirk on June 13th 2012, 2:21 am

lol

Sanket this is such an old debate. Very big misconception

You are not responsible for what is uploaded to youtube.
It is youtube's responsibility to remove any things that may be under copyright infringement.

Youtube provides and offer the links and codes to share on websites and forums and other social networks.. There for the website or forum owner can not be held responsible of copyrights for content posted on youtube. It would have to be reported to youtube for them to remove and or take any actions they feel necessary from the account they have been uploaded from.

Now if it was something inappropriate such as porn.Then no, You the forum owner would be help responsible for such things as inappropriate content no matter where it came from.

But everyday youtube music videos, Once again it is youtubes responsibility to take necessary actions to have it removed from youtube.

If it was a violation for forumotion forum owners not to allow copyrighted videos and other content from youtube.. well every forum would be in violation .. LOL geek

But yeah sanket, this goes back way way far, even before i was a mod.
It's one of those things that have always been a big misconception.

But yeah you cant be held responsible when it is youtube providing options to post and share on other sites.

Then porn is porn and completely different

Anyway.. I'll see if i can track down typlos old post on it.


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Re: music from youtube

Post by Sanket on June 13th 2012, 6:21 am

Kirk, times have changed. It is youtube's responsibility to remove the content, but i already quoted my posts with respect to the TOS of Forumotion.


@S-t-e-v-e-
The link you gave, when you click on show more. You will see this.
License:
Standard YouTube License


http://zeighy.net/blog/entry/953
Well, in a standard Youtube License, you declare that you are the owner of the work or has been licensed that you can upload/distribute the video. Basically, you are either a) the copyright owner of the work, or b) the owner of the work has allowed you to upload it to Youtube, and that a) other people CANíT USE/REMIX your work without your permission.

So it means, after the permission from the author in my opinion.


S-t-e-v-e-, do you remember this post.
http://help.forumotion.com/t109789-forum-banned-by-onlineguardian#719316
So if you have a Music Forum on your forum, it could be problematic. Hence, i say don't take a chance. Wink

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on June 13th 2012, 10:04 am

that why i'm asking Wink year and half worth a work gone in sec without warning i needed to find out.

is this fine sanket?
Artist:- Ludacris Feat. Nate Dogg
Song:- Area Codes
www.youtube.com

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Re: music from youtube

Post by Sanket on June 13th 2012, 1:57 pm

As i said, you will need to find it out whats allowed & whats not. We can just give you examples of what we understand of the TOS of forumotion.



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Re: music from youtube

Post by S-t-e-v-e- on June 13th 2012, 2:01 pm

will this get my forum deleted? can you ask godfather or whoever is the boss of forumotion i need to know if i'm doing something wrong


Video-Sharing Website & Music Forum Rules


To protect the forum from being closed down we have to draw up new 'video sharing and music forum rules', which will be enforced now. Please read the following list, these are no longer allowed on our great forum.

List of things we can not allow anymore:
  • Music videos links or embed links on the forum.
  • Videos of your dogs with music on.
  • Any other videos that could have copyright material included.


If any of these thing are found they will be edited out of the post. Please do not be offended, we are only protecting the forum from any issues that may pop up in the future with copyright laws that could get the forum closed down.

If you want to share a video with music on or add song with everyone from now on it can only be done in this format;

How to add and share a video with music on:
  • Artist:- Name of the artist
  • Song / Username:- Song title / Username
  • www.youtube.com <--- give them a link to youtube and it be upto the member to find the video

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Post by Sanket on June 13th 2012, 2:09 pm

So you are saying that you just give them the criteria for the search on youtube? That is perfectly fine then.

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on June 13th 2012, 2:12 pm

yea..... are 100% sure Sad i dont want my forum to be deleted Laughing

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Post by Sanket on June 13th 2012, 2:15 pm

Where was the quoted information from?

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on June 13th 2012, 2:19 pm

@Sanket wrote:Where was the quoted information from?

i wrote it up for my forum

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Post by Sanket on June 13th 2012, 2:23 pm

I think its allowed then, as long as no links are posted. I will still let Leeloo confirm it for you.

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on June 13th 2012, 2:24 pm

thanks Sanket

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Re: music from youtube

Post by Leviosa on June 13th 2012, 2:40 pm

Hello,

You're allowed to post some Youtube links. If the content breaks the copyrights, the video will be removed from Youtube, but it has nothing to do with Forumotion.

You don't risk to see your forum banned. The only cases when the forum is banned by Online Guardian without any warning are when the forum is completely illegal or when we received an order from a competent authority.

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on June 13th 2012, 2:46 pm

so i can post link to youtube music videos

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Post by Leviosa on June 13th 2012, 2:51 pm

@S-t-e-v-e- wrote:so i can post link to youtube music videos

Yes. What's not allowed, is to make available on your forum some links to download copyrighted contents.
The streaming links are also prohibited.

In fact, what's usually prohibited on the web, is also prohibited on Forumotion.
And Youtube is totally legal. Smile

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on June 13th 2012, 2:53 pm

god i just deleted over 7000 posts last night Sad thinking i was breaking forumotion rules

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Post by Sanket on June 13th 2012, 2:55 pm

Leeloo, but some content on youtube which is illegal what is that considered on Forumotion?

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