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Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by aaronz on March 18th 2013, 2:25 pm

Okay I am just saying that like if you have a warning long long time ago (like around 2 years) you can get the bar fill up a bit because people get disadvantages even when they do it long long time ago. Hem

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Base on March 18th 2013, 2:47 pm

Currently, all warnings are permanent. We, the staff, have discussed methods of reversing warning bars. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like this policy is going to change in the near future.

It would also be near impossible to keep up with everyone who has a warning and it is hard to decide on what criteria need to be met for warning bars to be reversed.

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by RadioHead on March 18th 2013, 3:10 pm

@Base wrote:Currently, all warnings are permanent. We, the staff, have discussed methods of reversing warning bars. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like this policy is going to change in the near future.

It would also be near impossible to keep up with everyone who has a warning and it is hard to decide on what criteria need to be met for warning bars to be reversed.

Let me emphasis this;
This is the same thing that was said back in 2008 by Caihlem, and by Sanket last year.

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Ina on March 18th 2013, 3:14 pm

Indeed, on other official support forums the warnings are erased after a various period, under some conditions:
- no more breaking the rules for a certain time
- a number of messages posted in the support section
- the users must ask for the warn to be removed because no one can keep a better evidence than the user itself.
Very few could benefit from this facility so far but miracles can happen. Mr. Green
My vote is yes.

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by RadioHead on March 18th 2013, 3:15 pm

@Ina wrote:Indeed, on other official support forums the warnings are erased after a various period, under some conditions:
- no more breaking the rules for a certain time
- a number of messages posted in the support section
- the user ask for the warn to be removed because no one can keep a better evidence than the user itself.
Very few could benefit from this facility so far but miracles can happen. Mr. Green
My vote is yes.

Is it only the Romanian support (that u run) that does this Ina?

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Ina on March 18th 2013, 3:16 pm

First time was implemented on the french support forum.

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Sir Chivas™ on March 18th 2013, 3:23 pm

We might come into an agreement later in time. Although, I do strongly believe that users that haven't broke any rules after their first warning might get a chance if we (Staff) see changes, such: Mature, helpful, etc...Although, users that have +2 warnings shouldn't get a chance.

My vote is still in the middle of both, though.



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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Sanket on March 18th 2013, 3:41 pm

@RadioHead wrote:
@Base wrote:Currently, all warnings are permanent. We, the staff, have discussed methods of reversing warning bars. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like this policy is going to change in the near future.

It would also be near impossible to keep up with everyone who has a warning and it is hard to decide on what criteria need to be met for warning bars to be reversed.

Let me emphasis this;
This is the same thing that was said back in 2008 by Caihlem, and by Sanket last year.
This is 100% correct atleast about my decision Wink
We have tried different ways/criteria's to get this suggestion implemented, but its cons outweigh its pros everytime.

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Bazinga! on March 18th 2013, 7:55 pm

Everybody makes mistakes, nobody is perfect.

However, if there are people who are allowed to just have their warnings dropped then what's the point in having a warning bar in the first place?

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by aaronz on March 19th 2013, 6:07 am

Maybe i should say that it can get filled up if you only have +1 warning

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Rhino.Freak on March 19th 2013, 9:44 am

I kinda agree, or maybe you can make "Bans" weekly or montly and after bans, the warns are reset!

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Darth Apple on March 19th 2013, 5:18 pm

I think that not having them fill back up gives users more motivation not to break site rules. Personally, I do feel that sometimes users do learn from mistakes made years ago, and under certain circumstances, warning bars should be allowed to be reset. As far as having warning bars reset periodically, that reduces the incentive for many users to follow site rules. My personal feeling is that resets should be granted to users when warranted, but not automatically or periodically.

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Base on March 19th 2013, 5:21 pm

If there was an automatic warning system, this idea could work i.e. warnings being reversed after some time. Unfortunately, due to the current system being manual and for the reasons stated above, I can't see warnings being reversed any time soon.

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Bazinga! on March 20th 2013, 3:10 pm

@Darth Apple wrote:I think that not having them fill back up gives users more motivation not to break site rules. Personally, I do feel that sometimes users do learn from mistakes made years ago, and under certain circumstances, warning bars should be allowed to be reset. As far as having warning bars reset periodically, that reduces the incentive for many users to follow site rules. My personal feeling is that resets should be granted to users when warranted, but not automatically or periodically.

I agree with Darth Apple's post here. The warning bar's just seem to be rendered useless if they are automatically or periodically filled up after a point in time (unless in certain circumstances).

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by iPur3Talent on March 20th 2013, 3:17 pm

I agree with what everyone has said here. But I also agree that over time they should be filled up again. Like every year. On January 1st of the new year. If your warning bar is Red, it goes up to Orange, if orange it goes up to yellow, if yellow it goes up to green.

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by aaronz on March 30th 2013, 11:20 am

bump come on, more votes!

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Zacbonic/Albinotiger on April 2nd 2013, 5:36 am

@iPur3Talent wrote:I agree with what everyone has said here. But I also agree that over time they should be filled up again. Like every year. On January 1st of the new year. If your warning bar is Red, it goes up to Orange, if orange it goes up to yellow, if yellow it goes up to green.

I Agree Completely with this, Every year it goes up one but I think it depends on what you did.

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by aaronz on April 9th 2013, 6:04 am

Bump for more votes! Very Happy

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Derri on April 13th 2013, 7:50 am

I personally think that they should fill up after a period of time. However since FM don't have an automated system. I think after a period of time you can send a private message to say a manager and upwards and almost appeal and ask for it to be removed.

A couple reasons why this could work well.

1) It shows that they care. I mean compare to an auto system. If someone get a warning and it expires you don't know if they've learned their lesson. However if someone takes the time out of their day to send you a private message saying why they think they deserve the removal of a warning then it shows they deserve a second chance. Especially if it was a minor warning.

2) It gives the staff a chance to discuss and get back to the person.

Overall in my own personal opinion if you break the rules then yeah, you deserve to be punished but if you care enough to have the warning removed then you should be able to send a PM to staff after a period of time with reasons why you deserve it to be removed. I mean say you advertised your forum link, then you get a warning. A year later you haven't advertised a single time in that year, do you still deserve that warning....

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Sanket on April 13th 2013, 8:25 am

This is simply not a practical solution because.
If we reduce someone's warning bar & do not reduce it for someone else, they will start complaining of us being biased & in turn cause us more problems than required.

So, we are not accepting this suggestion until you have some practical solution which can be incorporated.

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Asriel on April 13th 2013, 9:20 pm

I believe that everyone deserves second chances no matter how bad he/she has been. So I vote YES!

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Zacbonic/Albinotiger on April 14th 2013, 2:57 am

@Sanket wrote:This is simply not a practical solution because.
If we reduce someone's warning bar & do not reduce it for someone else, they will start complaining of us being biased & in turn cause us more problems than required.

So, we are not accepting this suggestion until you have some practical solution which can be incorporated.
Well Simply State that This member has been carrying this warning for A year, month, Etc.(Whatever you would possibly think would be fair.) And i also think that some coding could probably make this possible without all the stress.

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Sanket on April 14th 2013, 7:00 am

@Asriel wrote:I believe that everyone deserves second chances no matter how bad he/she has been. So I vote YES!
Ofcourse everyone believes that, however on this forum its impossible to incorporate it & hence we cannot accept the suggestion.

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Zacbonic/Albinotiger on April 14th 2013, 7:57 am

Now that i think of it, This most likely would not work at all, What's the point in rules if your warning bars fill back up periodically And you can behave well so a staff member can refill your warning bar? Vote changed to no.

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by WHITESABBATH on April 17th 2013, 5:12 pm

I have been around this site for several years and seldom have i seen a person go from good "standings" to "banned " over a single incident. Those that had it usually was the result of something extremely flagrant . It is the norm that members receive multiple warning levels before being banned. It's my belief that the level of warnings is their opportunity and/or second, third,forth chance to correct whatever it is their doing to be sited/warned. Perhaps leaving the warning(s) as a reminder to a member that past actions won't be tolerated,thus a better chance they won't let history repeats itself . Wink

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Hows this?

Post by Sir. Mayo on April 18th 2013, 2:50 am

@iPur3Talent wrote:I agree with what everyone has said here. But I also agree that over time they should be filled up again. Like every year. On January 1st of the new year. If your warning bar is Red, it goes up to Orange, if orange it goes up to yellow, if yellow it goes up to green.


OK i like this but how about this is only if you have no warnings for 1 year? (one full year From Jan 1 to dec 31)

Could this be some what easier to keep track of???

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by collinsexton on June 12th 2013, 4:11 am

I sort of wish this is possible, so I'll vote yes. But multiple requests have been made about this, and it would be difficult for the forum mods/admins to keep up and reset everyone's warning level, especially people who don't deserve it. It has been discussed multiple times, but has been denied and won't look like it'll be possible in the near future.

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Re: Warning Bar fills up after some time

Post by Sanket on June 12th 2013, 8:33 am

I have already mentioned about its Drawbacks.
Thread is being Archived & Suggestion is refused.

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