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Should the requirement rules for graphics be abolished?

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Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by Asriel on April 11th 2013, 4:23 am

Most members who visit this support forum frequently are aware of the new graphic rules. While some rules make sense to reduce the activity and give everyone a fair chance at having their order completed, there are some that I, for one do not agree with. Such as the rules bellow.

@BlackScorpion wrote:
The following requirements are required in order to request graphics for your Forum.

Forum must have a minimum of 10 users.
Forum must have at least 100 post.

Here's what I do not agree with. Most of the new forums created by new and inexperienced members will not have 10 memebers or at least 100 posts. The new members will probably focus more on the layout of the forum, then gathering members. So, if the person in question doesn't know how to use photoshop to make their site more attractive, no one will probably visit or sign up there.

So, I think that new members should not be required to have 10 members and 100 posts. It is just impossible for a newly created forum to have 100 posts and 10 members. Furthermore, the rules should be abolished. Please support the new forums!

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Re: Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by Sanket on April 11th 2013, 5:39 am

This means all skins on hitskin.com are not attractive & ordinary. Correct? Only images made by someone through the GFX request feature, become attractive? I totally disagree with this.

There are many attractive skins on hitskin.com for various versions.

On why the rule was added. It is noticed that, some users just create forums for fun. Initially make the graphics request, get the images. Then after a few days if you visit the forum they are vanished.
So the minimum requirements are just a proof to find that the forum creator is dedicated towards their forum. 10 Users & 100 posts, is a very low criteria. It won't even take 10 days to get that much, simply 1 user a day & 10 posts a day. Its a way to prioritize the graphics requests for users who are dedicated, over users who make it simply for fun.

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Re: Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by Sir Chivas™ on April 11th 2013, 4:39 pm

I agree with Sanket. There's a lot of users that might even use the images in other sort of events, and take credit for the graphics. That's very unfair for us, who provide the graphics. It's a free service which should be respected. You wouldn't like creating graphics for members that aren't even going to use them in their forum and take credit for the graphics in another place, wouldn't you?



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Re: Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by BlackScorpion on April 11th 2013, 6:30 pm

Not only that Sir Chavis, they have Forums with other NON-Forumotion Boards and come here to request graphics. Which is not fair to the Forumotion Users, who are using the Forumotion Service. Like Saket said 10 user and 100 post is really nothing if you break it down.

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Re: Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by Derri on April 11th 2013, 8:23 pm

The only problem I see with this is I often when creating a forum want to have a good looking forum before I open it to members. I'm not graphic savvy and I can't design graphics that well.

Therefore this kind of service is life saver. I mean how does one get people to join and be active when you're using a theme form hitskin with the basic graphics?

I'm not questioning the decisions as such but I think this might impact on getting a forum started as a well graphically designed forum is key in attracting members in the first place.

Maybe if we could request a basic thing such as a banner or something because you need a good banner to start up your forum. You can get other images from elsewhere but a banner is something very gripping and personal to the forum.

While 100 posts and 10 users is nothing, how can you get a base group like that when your forum isn't designed well due to you having limited experience in graphics.

Again I'm defiantly not wanting to sound harsh or rude, I love the forumotion service and love what you guys do for your member base but this is something that has struck me as odd when you consider all factors and pros and cons.


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Re: Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by Sanket on April 11th 2013, 8:29 pm

A forum gets its members due to its content. Looks are secondary. If you don't have the content on your forum, no one will want to stay.


Its worth considering to add a banner as a exception. Other than that, I don't see any valid justification Wink

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Re: Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by Derri on April 11th 2013, 8:36 pm

If a banner would be considered then I think it would be a good idea. The only thing I can see as a downside is often many people want to make their forum look original and then attract members I could see this being a small impact. I personally have always been a fan of setting up the forum with its looks and traits and then creating content and then advertising.

I do see your points and they are perfectly valid. I'm just looking a it all from all angles.


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Re: Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by Sanket on April 11th 2013, 8:42 pm

Well, as i said adding a banner as a exception to this rule is justified. Wink

Definitely, everyone wants their forum to look customized. However, all we are doing is prioritizing. Wink

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Re: Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by Asriel on April 11th 2013, 9:13 pm

I am not saying that all people are being fair about using free services from Forumotion, but I don't think it's fair that people who actually credit the system should suffer.

I understand that it's not fair and I agree that there should be some sort of limit on that, but for new forums, most people are not aware they are around. Can the rules at least be slightly altered to say
5 members and 50 posts? That way they have a higher chance at least at requesting a graphic.

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Re: Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by BlackScorpion on April 11th 2013, 9:56 pm

@Sanket wrote:Well, as i said adding a banner as a exception to this rule is justified. Wink

Definitely, everyone wants their forum to look customized. However, all we are doing is prioritizing. Wink

I have to agree with Sanket, Content is what people are after, if you have good content they won't care what the forum looks like.

Derri, as for your response about a basic banner, there are plenty of graphic generators, where one can personalize one and you don't need experience to use it. Here are a few examples:

Banners:
http://www.cooltext.com
http://www.bannerfans.com/
http://www.mybannermaker.com/

Buttons:
http://dabuttonfactory.com/
http://www.buttongenerator.com/
http://cooltext.com/
http://buttons.qds-team.com/web/workspace

All one has to do is type in "create a free banner or buttons" into google..

I personally don't think we need to change the rules.

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Re: Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by Guest on April 13th 2013, 2:16 am

I think making an exception for banners is a great idea--and as much as I don't like limiting those who are new that just made their forum, I do believe the rule is necessary.

Creating a forum, making it original, and attracting members with the base skins are hard, but if you are dedicated--truly dedicated--you'll get the members you need to accomplish your goal and will make running your forum all the more worth it.

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Re: Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by invisible_fa on April 14th 2013, 12:06 am

Hello.

I agree with this suggestion too.

In the spanish support forum, for example, there are only two rules for asking for a design:

-Warning bar at 100%

-Have at least 30 post or more.

We don´t must forget that graphical section is an "extra" section.

What do I mean with "extra"?

Well, this is a support forum, so the main reason for the existence of this forum is giving support to Forumotion members.

Making banners, logos etc is an "extra" work, so I think that the rules for that section should be more focused on users behaviour than in the user forum`s statistics.

By other hand, normally when someone have just created a forum, is normal that, before he promotes the forum into other websites, the Admin wanna make the forum looks cool, so the users will feel more comfortable in a well designed forum than in a poor designed forum.

Of course, in addition of the design, the post content must be interesting for members, but I think design means the 50% of the success of a forum.

So, when you create a forum, the first thing you do is improve the design, and later, when you have a nice theme, then you can focus your attention in promoting your forum into others sites to gain members.


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Re: Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by Sanket on April 14th 2013, 6:47 am

Thank you for the suggestions, we will soon be incorporating a Banner as a exception with 50 posts & 5 members. As we still want to avoid people misusing the graphics request service. Thank you. This thread will be closed once the rules are incorporated Wink

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Re: Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by BlackScorpion on April 14th 2013, 7:22 am

@Sanket wrote:Thank you for the suggestions, we will soon be incorporating a Banner as a exception with 50 posts & 5 members. As we still want to avoid people misusing the graphics request service. Thank you. This thread will be closed once the rules are incorporated Wink

Thanks everyone for your suggestions, the new exception has now have been incorporated into the Rules.

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Re: Removing Some Requirements for Graphics Order

Post by Sanket on April 14th 2013, 7:40 am

Thanks BlackScorpion Wink

Thank you all for providing your valuable suggestions. Its Appreciated. Smile

Suggestion Partly Accepted. Thread Locked.

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