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Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by zink77 on March 8th 2008, 5:50 am

Sometimes, a forum gets deleted for breaking a rule. I agree to delete a forum without recovery if it contains pornography or has illegal content but sometimes, a member might post that or a hacker and maybe the forum doesn't revolve around that certain thing. People put a lot of effort and time to create a forum and it's devastating when they're erased!


Please block forums instead of deleting them without recovery! You can warn the administrators to fix them if they want to unblock it.

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by Adiex on March 8th 2008, 5:58 am

totally agreed, because sometimes admin will miss out certain thing that can makes they forum got deleted.

i strongly agree for this matter,
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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by zink77 on March 8th 2008, 6:28 am

Thanks for the support! And I tought there was a real bug on my monitor. I twitched. Nice avatar!

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by Sneshka on March 8th 2008, 6:43 am

I agree,
but also administrators must be activated more and more responsible

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by Adiex on March 8th 2008, 6:59 am

aha, got so many ppl tricked with that avatar wherever forum i go Razz,
btw, we talk about second and the only chances forumation should give to them. if that forum repeat same mistake again and its should deleted permenantly.

that more fair for them Wink
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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by zink77 on March 8th 2008, 3:31 pm

I agree.

Some people don't realise they're breaking a rule and some times it isn't anything too bad. For example I remember a forum was deleted for having a similar name as Yahoo. They could have blocked it and tell the admin to change the address. I'm sure those people put a lot of work in their forum and were devastated!

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by kingofpk on March 10th 2008, 12:50 am

I am Agree Only The Forums With Pornography, illegal data, warez, haking cracking,etc should be delet without any warning and other about good intertainment about life should be blocked for a moment and when forums members say sorry and fix his mistakes then should be open again this is the good Law solution for good job and Great Services. Wink
I Think Formotion shoud make a New Team For Such good service.
I Realy Love its Great Too Much Great About Formotion.
its not easy to open a great forum may be some time you dont know what are you doing but infront of the forum of the fourms admin could be illigal wrong.

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by zinex on March 10th 2008, 12:56 am

It is very unlikely a forum will be deleted without warning unless is is clearly breaking the rules that are agreed to on making your forum. It states very simply that pornography, warez, hacking cracking etc should not be on your forums. If peole make forums called warez.formotion.com for example, are you suggesting they dont know they are breaking the terms of service they have agreed to on sign up?

I doubt very much the team whom deal with forum deletion get a list in front of them and just delete delete delete. If they think you may not be aware of something being unacceptable, they will warn you to remove it. If they think you are aware and its a serious breech, because some things are blindingly obvious, they will delete. If you really believe every member that comes here saying oh my forum was deleted but i didnt know i was doing anything wrong, yet their forum address contains warez, or porn, etc...then thats daft Very Happy

I think their system that they have in place is fine, so i vote no.

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by Decibel on March 10th 2008, 1:30 am

Best advice I have is to backup all your work/scripts to your computer.

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by kingofpk on March 10th 2008, 1:38 am

@zinex wrote:It is very unlikely a forum will be deleted without warning unless is is clearly breaking the rules that are agreed to on making your forum. It states very simply that pornography, warez, hacking cracking etc should not be on your forums. If peole make forums called warez.formotion.com for example, are you suggesting they dont know they are breaking the terms of service they have agreed to on sign up?

I doubt very much the team whom deal with forum deletion get a list in front of them and just delete delete delete. If they think you may not be aware of something being unacceptable, they will warn you to remove it. If they think you are aware and its a serious breech, because some things are blindingly obvious, they will delete. If you really believe every member that comes here saying oh my forum was deleted but i didnt know i was doing anything wrong, yet their forum address contains warez, or porn, etc...then thats daft Very Happy

I think their system that they have in place is fine, so i vote no.


I am also agree with you zinx but.....

plz dont delet my forums lol my forums are not for breaking rules TOS.
its only about good and great intertainment.
I Realy Respect the rules and respect the members.
if some body breaking rules in my forums i will care about and lookafter.
I am also a teacher and i know whats good whats wrong so dont worry about my forums.
still my request to formotion team should be a new law for good and helpfull forums.
And in this law for great forums only should be blocked and then open again after say sorry.

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by zinex on March 10th 2008, 8:37 am

Forumotion does not go about looking for forums to delete. Each and every forum that has been removed will have been reported to forumotion. If you forum does not break tos, or if it does but mildly, you will be warned to take down the material. If it is reported and contains severe TOS breaking it will be removed.

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by hitesh on March 10th 2008, 10:42 am

@zinex wrote:Forumotion does not go about looking for forums to delete. Each and every forum that has been removed will have been reported to forumotion. If you forum does not break tos, or if it does but mildly, you will be warned to take down the material. If it is reported and contains severe TOS breaking it will be removed.

I think only block is good. Deletion and block are similar but if admin request here and agree one time more then his forum can unblocked. Some time admin do not take care but if it is blocked they will surely take care.

Deletion is not only a solution. We need that other follows rules. So, block is good one

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by Nessa on March 10th 2008, 4:13 pm

I vote no for this. But not because I dont think some forums should be warned of only minor infringements first, but I believe the terms of service is not very hard to follow as an admin myself and with a good staff. All should be able to keep there forums clean of such materials if they claim to put so much time work and effort into it to begin with. And if a forum is reported for violation the TOS, odds are it's not only one report about it but numerous. I think Forumotion handles these issues with great care and looks into each report before such decisions are made. Therefore, in my opinion it is more up the the forum owners and staff as well to tighten the reins so to speak. This whole block thing I think will only open more loopholes for violating the TOS, so I dont agree.

And no disrespect but saying I'm sorry and handing the forum back again will not stop them from doing so again if they really wanted to, I dont think.. just my opinion. Wink

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by Zandranna on March 11th 2008, 12:59 am

THis topic has me a bit worried. In all the years I have been on message boards I have never come across discussions of boards being deleted. I'm not saying they aren't being deleted, just that it can't happen that often because I have never seen a topic discussing it. Yet on here I have, in the 5 days I have been on this system now read 3 posts about deleting of boards. Which is very worrying.

I have a locked Adult content forum - the announcement with it clearly says in capitals NO PORN. It's simply for the odd smutty grown up joke that I would not want someone under the age of say 15- 16 to read.

Now if I get a new member come along and he/she is given access to that forum, being a grown up, and reads something they take offence to and complains, does that mean I run the risk of having my board closed??

I hear what Zinex is saying but for it to be of concern to members here enough to get a poll up to have a board blocked instead of deleted makes me wonder if it happens more on this system than others because there is maybe less tollerance??

Don't get me wrong because pornography or any sort of hate encouragement because of race, creed or colour is discraceful and should never be tollerated and if that is the reason behind all board deletions then fine but I am now wary about where the line is drawn here. I mean what about language?? If some posters are swearing in a heated grumble, does that constitute a board being closed if the forums aren't locked??

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by Guest on March 11th 2008, 1:57 pm

I also voted no, as forumotion if they only block a site are liable in law for the content of the said site.
If however they delete an offending site are no longer responsible or liable for prosecution in a court of law.
In answer to Zandranna, it is very unlikely that your site as the section is locked would be in any breach of tos (I have a joke section and my youngest members are 18).

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by zinex on March 11th 2008, 3:22 pm

its nothing to do with less tolerance zandranna, ther are some things that are cleary not going to be tolerated such as dog fighting forums, child porn forums, illegal warez and so on. For anything that isnt so blatantly obvious i would imagine warnings are issued first to remove the content. However i dont have anything to do with deleting forums. You probably havent seen many posts about forums been deleted on other servers, because a lot of support forums dont just delete the forum, they ban the owner of the forum too and immediately get rid of any posts regarding the deletion. Forumotion does not do this so there are more deletion threads to be seen.

If someone complains about a forum it does not mean your fourm will automatically be deleted. It will be investigated and depending on the nature of the complaint you will be contacted about it. I know this because someone recently complained about mine, and i was contacted by admin in regards to the complaint.

As nessa states and i fully agree with, it really is fairly obvious what sort of things are serious breaches and will result in immediate closure. As long as admin accept that by making a forum they have a responsibility to keep their forum free of such things, it shouldnt ever be an issue. Admin should not think forums are just for fun, they have a responsibility to each and every member, and to the provider they choose to use by sticking with the terms of service.

And like i said, dont believe every post you see on the support forum asking why their www.i-broke-warez-tos.forumotion.com forum was deleted, that they didnt know...they are hardly going to come and say yes okay i did know i am very sorry....

I am fairy certain that forumotion does not have the time to be blocking forums, unblocking them and then keeping a regular eye on them to make sure the offense is not repeated once the admin think enough time has passed to not be under suspicion. There are many sites made a day with the clear intention of rule breaking, it would be a huge huge job. This is why i still say personally i think arnings for minor offenses and immediate deletion is fine. Lets put it this way, if you hard worked on but deliberately breaking tos forum is deleted...you are not going to risk that happening again are you...but if it is only blocked, then unblocked, you just might Smile

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by Caihlem on March 11th 2008, 3:31 pm

*Old Admin speaking*

O_O
You break the rules you get bent, your forum gets deleted and you go away

You don't want to loose all your work then you DON'T do illegal stuff

It's like people who sell drugs moaning to the cops when they get busted: "But I didn't know it was illegal :'"
Damn right you did, so shut it and do your time convict
And "if" you really (truly, uterrly) didn't know; Where do you live? On daily news people are busted for streaming and stuff like that


So I'm voting no and wish I could close this poll
Illegal stuff should always be burnt

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by zink77 on March 13th 2008, 12:25 am

I totally agree about illegal content forums being deleted but what worries me is if a member let's say posts several illegal pornographic images on a forum. Maybe the forum admin is away and the mods too and no one can erase the images for a few days. Will forumotion delete the forum because an idiot posted those images?

Or worst case scenario, soemone hacks teh forum and posts illegal content in the protal, index etc. The staff will assume the forum admin did it and again will delete the forum.

I just think forums should be analized better before deleting.

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by zinex on March 13th 2008, 1:34 am

I totally agree about illegal content forums being deleted but what worries me is if a member let's say posts several illegal pornographic images on a forum. Maybe the forum admin is away and the mods too and no one can erase the images for a few days. Will forumotion delete the forum because an idiot posted those images?

That will not happen, the forumotion team are not so...stupid...as your posts do suggest. Every complaint is dealt with and these hings are checked, like i say, they dont just get ac omplaint and just remove the forum...i should know i have had a complaint made about mine before Wink

SOmeone posted recently to let us know that someone had hacked the site and added porn, i alerted admin and it was restored to the original owner...another scenario that isnt likely to happen.

Zink i do think that you are tending to believe a little too much the excuses given from members whom post about their site being deleted. Have you yet seen one post saying...yes okay, i did break terms of service? I would doubt it, instead its anything but...to try to get their forum back... The rules are very simple to follow, if they are followed there will be no complaints to be made that will only result in your forum deletion if it is investigated and deemed that the forum admin has definately and intentionally allowed the terms of service to be broken.

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Re: Block forums instead of deleting.

Post by Jophy on March 24th 2013, 4:08 am

Suggestion Clean up

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