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New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by JScript on March 28th 2015, 2:02 am

Hello everybody!

I come to suggest the creation of a new category or sub-forum for programmers could post their own codes that perhaps were to become a tutorial rather than of having to submit the code per private message to a member of the Staff assigned to it!

In this way we would have more freedom to post various codes, I have several codes and ideas, but have to send them one by one by PM, it becomes tiring and code analysis and testing is restricted to only the staff!
While the analyzes and tests could be wider if all members could view them and test them.

If you look, I have several codes that could be tutorials, but they are scattered in various topics given as "Solved" as well as this: http://help.forumotion.com/t139656-categories-hide-show#950025

With this new section, everyone could give opinions and tips for improvements to the code, until at last, were to become a tutorial.

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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by Van-Helsing on March 28th 2015, 2:25 am

Hello @JScript,
That is a great idea, we can test and help to debuging the codes in their beta phase of development. By this way the development of the tutorials codes should be faster and can be discussed by members.

Voted Yes!

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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by EndlessDream on March 28th 2015, 3:46 am

I voted yes and I agree with previous posts.
I think that that section would encourage members to share their ideas and they would also get feedback from other members and programmers.

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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by SLGray on March 28th 2015, 5:35 am

The reason why we do it this way is so members will not put codes on their forums that cause issues.


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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by JScript on March 28th 2015, 9:00 am

@SLGray wrote:The reason why we do it this way is so members will not put codes on their forums that cause issues.
Issues like this http://help.forumotion.com/t139656-categories-hide-show#948722 about this tutorial http://help.forumotion.com/t102749-category-toggle ?

Remembering that tutorial only provides the code for two versions, missed the phpBB2 version!

I made a code that works in the other 3 versions, since Invision already have the system...
A little test here in the forum: http://i.imgur.com/hrs0buF.png

Still, thanks for your negative vote,

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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by Luffy on March 28th 2015, 12:26 pm

I will not vote for this yet because i might change my mind later on.

Alright so, my thoughts are:
- If we have this new section (and like SLGray mentioned) members will see the tutorials and try adding them to their forum and then start asking questions about unofficial tutorials. This will cause some extra trouble and pressure to the Technical Support because they will have to check the tutorials and try fixing them and give solutions to the questions.
- The plus to this suggestion is that members can correct some tutorials and add more features to them so that they would be better and more functional. That's the only plus i could think of.
- Since this is not really nice to me, i think that the pm sending method we have now is better but if you could change my thought then i will vote positive for your suggestion.

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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by Derri on March 28th 2015, 12:57 pm

To be honest I'm going to vote in favour. The idea that we should dismiss this suggestion based off of the fact that some codes might cause issues isn't a good argument. Because FM itself wouldn't be endorsing the tutorials. Just because someone posts something on my forum doesn't mean I endorse it. The same rule would apply here, we'd make a disclaimr that states FM can't be held responsible for codes you add to your forum.

Now some might say this is unsafe but then I propose this thought:

In the support forum categories such as Forum Design and Appearance Help or Scripts and Coding Problems, members frequently give codes to other members, without us questioning it. So its kind of the same principle.

It would also allow better community spirit, many forums have community mod areas (VBulletin, phpBB etc.) so if we had a community tutorial area then it would help bring the community together. Which is an area FM completely lacks in.



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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by JScript on March 28th 2015, 1:01 pm

@Derri
That's right! I've seen several members who have not sent their codes for PM for the same reason I opened this topic!


@Luffy wrote:(...)
- If we have this new section (and like SLGray mentioned) members will see the tutorials and try adding them to their forum and then start asking questions about unofficial tutorials. This will cause some extra trouble and pressure to the Technical Support because they will have to check the tutorials and try fixing them and give solutions to the questions.(...)

But this section would not be called "tutorials", then members would not see the "tutorials" as you stated above, since the codes would not be "unofficial tutorials", but only beta codes!

Not to mention that could have specific rules for preventing members asked for support codes posted in the section and something like:
(Experimental code, do not ask support!)

Either way, it would be better than staying sending PM and waiting for feedback from only one or two people.

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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by brandon_g on March 28th 2015, 3:19 pm

@Derri wrote:To be honest I'm going to vote in favour. The idea that we should dismiss this suggestion based off of the fact that some codes might cause issues isn't a good argument. Because FM itself wouldn't be endorsing the tutorials. Just because someone posts something on my forum doesn't mean I endorse it. The same rule would apply here, we'd make a disclaimr that states FM can't be held responsible for codes you add to your forum.

Now some might say this is unsafe but then I propose this thought:

In the support forum categories such as Forum Design and Appearance Help or Scripts and Coding Problems, members frequently give codes to other members, without us questioning it. So its kind of the same principle.

It would also allow better community spirit, many forums have community mod areas (VBulletin, phpBB etc.) so if we had a community tutorial area then it would help bring the community together. Which is an area FM completely lacks in.


I second that, totally agree with that statement Derri. Plus 1 for you.

I also will vote yes.

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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by Derri on March 28th 2015, 6:52 pm

What I think would be good is having a subforum underneath it where members can ask questions or get support for those beta tutorials/experimental coding.



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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by JScript on March 28th 2015, 6:59 pm

@Derri
Yes, that's a great idea!

Look my case: I've posted a few codes where I had to put the word [Project] and thus not infringe any rules!

See: http://i.imgur.com/zaX77Aw.png - They all work well and which could already be included as tutorials, are practical, only require the addition of a JS code and nothing else!

Thanks for your vote,

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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by JScript on April 1st 2015, 2:59 pm

Just to remind...

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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by JScript on April 15th 2015, 2:19 pm

Just to remind...


Even those who are not programmers, should support this idea because it will benefit everyone !!!
C'mon guys, since the platform (in part) is open (free), every idea to benefit Forumotion should be approved ...
This would be a way to encourage the creation of more codes, making increasingly strong, competitive and democratic platform.


Edit:
See this suggestion: http://help.forumotion.com/t27547p30-users-currently-viewing-this-topic
It has not yet been approved, but I made the code that simulates exactly what was proposed: http://help.forumotion.com/t27547p30-users-currently-viewing-this-topic#952558

The code would be much better if there was this section, so everyone could test it and give opinions, do not you think?

Let your opinion, is important,

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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by JScript on June 1st 2015, 3:02 pm

Just to remind...

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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by Derri on June 18th 2015, 3:57 pm

@JScript your suggestion has been accepted!


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Re: New section: Tutorial Proposal

Post by Leviosa on June 18th 2015, 5:30 pm

Thanks @JScript for this nice suggestion and @Derri for managing it Smile


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