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Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Guest on March 31st 2009, 11:56 am

Hey guys Hello

I know that on Vbulletin they have this feature as use of safety that nobody's plotting or doing anything they shouldn't be over pm. As of yet any pm's you get here and on our forums cannot be forwarded and even if they could be, it's very easy for them to be edited before they get forwarded. Having the ability of administrators being able to view everyones pm's would be useful because the users would always get caught out if they were trying to do something. And if a member complained that they were being harrased over pm, the admin could just go into their inbox and see if they're telling the truth.
You get where I'm coming from?

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Master Marc on March 31st 2009, 2:23 pm

Hello Pogosheep,

It is called "private" messages... Emphasize on private in the two words please...

The members can just take a screen shot to pm the Administrators...

Am sorry,but I like to keep my chats private...
I voted no and this is a really bad idea, Thumb down

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by khadi on March 31st 2009, 2:47 pm

hi

Many self respected Admins would not read their members pm's but you always have the ''control freek'', the'' peeping tom'', the ''curious'' , the ''I am bored I have nothing better to do than reading my members' pms''etc... who would read them [i][b]without having a safety/security/dispute'' reason.

After all, would we like the postman to read our mail before it reaches our door, just in case we were up to no good?

If any member pm the Admin because of a dispute, then the Admin has to be diplomatic enough to solve the problem without resorted snooping in their members' inbox.
The ''forward'' option is useful though , but being able to read the members' posts? no, no. This is taking Big Brother one step too far.

only my 2 cents.

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Redsun on March 31st 2009, 2:56 pm

this is not a bad idea, gives admin the real control of his/her board i think.

we know every huge boards have some arguments and different sides on it, and that's the normal thing, it shows board feeds from the real life, cause real life has many different opinions and visions... This is not the problem for checking the pm's.

but when it comes to board security, yes... with no comment founder have to be careful in my opinion.

this option also should be able for moderators so founders can give them new dutys, like checking the bad words on pm's, think that pm is related to board, and board rules...

*if there's a sharing of terms violated things on pms like, porn pictures, like warez, like warez videos anda games,

*if there are bad words and harmful ideas about the board and members

*if some of the using pm for just for spam and advertisement,

*if some of them using pm's for just like "hey want to be my girl, this is my phone number"...

of course founders have to see and checks pm's.

voted yes.

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Master Marc on March 31st 2009, 3:22 pm

Hello RedSun,

How would you feel that when you register and be a member of a forum,the Administrator can see what you are talking privately with your friend?

Or Typlo,Caihlem or Canceo be able to read what messages you are sending privately to your friends...

Do you want that to happen?

I,would never be a member of a forum if I know someone can read my private messages...It will have to say that the admins can read your private messages in the Terms and Agreements when you register for a forum,and when someone reads that,do you think you will get any members?

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Carryn on March 31st 2009, 3:24 pm

This has been suggested before...and rejected before!

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Guest on March 31st 2009, 4:18 pm

lol can everyone stop saying hello and hi to eachother xD

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by MrMario on March 31st 2009, 6:21 pm

Been suggested and refused. Anything with reading PM's is a NO! You can be suid for reading PM's Also you could just report the message to the Admin/Mod. Thats why their is a quote button.

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by APE on March 31st 2009, 6:38 pm

I vote NO i would not want some one with a big nose looking at what im talking about in my pm this is not what a pm is for, If some one is doing some thing they should not be doing then the member could forword the pm on to the staff and then a mod or admin can warn or ban then for what there doing END OFF SUB

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Base on March 31st 2009, 6:40 pm

Voted no. The whole idea of Private Messaging is that it's meant to be "Private" as some members have stated. Administrators reading them will clearly show invasion of someone's privacy.

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Redsun on March 31st 2009, 10:37 pm

this a "Simple ACP PM Read" -Phpbb 3 feature friends.

here's the picture of this mod on phpbb-3;



Seems admin can see all the traffic on pms.

Main refuses comes with a thing like "no, cause they're private".. Of course they're private, but the word "private" have some limits, i mean if it obey the terms and board rules than ok, no problem. But think about a board includes with members sharing some un-terms material and admin even doesn't know what's going on, admin means admin, and founder means founder.

If they have some special rights like changing a user password, edit their profil, or ban them then ok no problem for checking pm traffic for boards security.

A friend says how i feel if here admins read our pms, honostly i don't feel insecure, if its for security, sure they should, no problem, cause i know my pms are nothing against terms and board rules, but if it were...then ok this mod helps to get info about it.

Here is the link again for this mod,

http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=570810&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

If it's a bad thing of course official phpbb site doesn't give this mod, but it is not but if forumotion doesn't care about it and says we'll never add this mod to database, well ok, we have to respect it for sure.

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by The_Great_WZ on March 31st 2009, 10:48 pm

That's a good idea Smile

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Avatar Freddy on March 31st 2009, 11:08 pm

Am a fan of private being private - I'm not ddep into the admin on my forum yet, but where I have been on other forums as a member, it was possible to 'block' another member - then they can only harrass you openly - which won't happen - though I saw one case and it was an immature (young) knee jerk reaction.
It's not necessary IMO, lets hope there is a block/ fiend/foe option otherwise I'm changing my vote - jk!

Besides they will want to validate their groan about something(someone) and get it off their chest. They need a zone to go to.


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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by The_Great_WZ on April 1st 2009, 10:18 pm

Just Voted !!!

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by designersgr on April 1st 2009, 10:23 pm

@Avatar Freddy wrote:Am a fan of private being private

Very good Very good Very good

Me too Voted no!!!

As i allready said that here before Arrow Arrow please help

@designersgr wrote:I don't know technically if you can do that!!! Morally in any case it's not correct to do it, and this is my opinion! Hello

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Blofeld on April 1st 2009, 10:54 pm

NO NO NO NO!!! Why do you think they are called Private Messages??? Thumb down Rolling Eyes

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by CloneCharizard on April 2nd 2009, 6:09 pm

They call it a Private Message for a reason so that it is only viewable for the person who is sending it & the person replying not for an admin to go reading other peoples messages

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by bambiy on April 2nd 2009, 6:15 pm

PM => PRIVATE MESSAGE => 'PRIVATE LIFE'

okey?

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by saad10 on April 2nd 2009, 6:38 pm

i vote yesss

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Avatar Freddy on April 3rd 2009, 10:12 am

Interestingly - I have a new forum and it I have not yet started mebership while setting up - added an admin member and sent a PM - I can view/archive and delete the PM
This is just so not right.

I'm off to the "No Swears" topic to change my vote to allow swearing.
First things first - talk to help GRRRR!!!

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by BliNk737 on April 4th 2009, 5:34 am

That's a real good idea. I say do it.

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by MrMario on April 4th 2009, 5:48 am

I still think this is breaking the PM words PRIVITE!

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Dreamlimix on April 4th 2009, 5:58 am

Yes! in one of my forums many people complains they got spam by someone and don't send screenshot so i want to see there pms if they actually received it! this is a YES from me!

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Avatar Freddy on April 4th 2009, 2:42 pm

XtremeX17 wrote:Yes! in one of my forums many people complains they got spam by someone and don't send screenshot so i want to see there pms if they actually received it! this is a YES from me!
Members can block PMs from another member - foe list. No need to play big brother

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Blofeld on April 4th 2009, 2:53 pm

How can this get so many yes's? Shocked I hope Typlo doesn't accept it!

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Guest on April 4th 2009, 4:23 pm

I abandoned this this thread yet it still seems to carry on getting votes.. Rolling Eyes

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Moldienut on April 4th 2009, 4:41 pm

In a way it's good and in a way it's bad in my opinion. The good thing is that to see if any spam or abuse is posted and the bad thing is that personal stuff may be seen and somebody might steal it to use in scams. Also what's the point of being called a private message if there are admins peeking? Some admins may be crooks, who knows?

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by DaSportsGuy34STC on April 4th 2009, 4:47 pm

It's invasion of privacy. If it's going to be called a "Private Message" it should be private as it says in the title. If your going to allow an administrator to view someone's PM's, they need to be called a "Message".

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by khadi on April 12th 2009, 1:02 pm

If the Admin can read PMs, then most of them would, without even a good reason, because curiosity would go over good morales. So, members might as well make a new topic about what they wanted to say in a PM to someone else and everyone can join in the fun fufufu . What about if the Admin is a total idiot , and members complain about him/her in their private messages ? maybe a little truth would not hurt Very Happy . lol? Some members do exchange numbers or email addresses by PM. This is not right that the admin should know or see.
The Admin is an admin, just that. Nothing more. We are not some kind of supreme being looking over our subjects. Do not let it go to your head, ''guys'' , let your members PM each other in privacy and get over your control attitude Very Happy
I believe that the percentage of those who misbehave while PMing is minimal, so, deal with it with the means we actually have, banning, disabling private messages etc... than intruding on members messages.
I still say it is not right. And if it goes through, then I will disable the right of private messaging on my forums because I will never want to be put in a situation where I have to read the members messages, even if they say I am an idiot , this is their prerogative and freedom of speech. Basketball joker

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Re: Administrators able to read everyones PM's

Post by Avatar Freddy on April 12th 2009, 2:36 pm

@MrMario wrote:Been suggested and refused. Anything with reading PM's is a NO! You can't be suid for reading PM's Also you could just report the message to the Admin/Mod. Thats why their is a quote button.
Except that a quote can be modified, cut or altered to a degree see the 't above.. just me messing with it - but anyway those people should go on your enemies list straight away! No more mail from them in your inbox - solved!
Glad to hear this is not gonna happen.

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