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Post by zadarmo3 on August 3rd 2009, 2:47 pm

Anybody tried it before?

Maybe you don't know that RIGHT NOW Linux distros have a nice graphical interfaces, like GNOME or KDE or XFCE or Fluxbox and more.

I prefer GNOME.

And I use both Windows XP and Ubuntu 9.04 PL

What about you?

You can try Ubuntu by downloading and burning the livecd!

It includes lots of drivers and there's a big chance you won't have to install anything Wink

Here's the official Ubuntu's site: http://www.ubuntu.com/

Do you like it?

Or maybe you prefer another distro?

P.S: I searched for Linux and Ubuntu topics and haven't found anything. Sorry, if this is spam, I'm new here.

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by Cornelia on August 6th 2009, 11:45 am

*spots the topic, then rushes through to read the message*

Yesss ! Another Ubuntu user, I'm not alone anymore !

by the way, hello zadermo3.

To answer to your questions : I'm using Ubuntu since May 15 2008, alongside with Windows XP and I prefer GNOME as GUI. I first started with Ubuntu 8.04, then I recently upgraded to 9.04 (the old installation broke, so I had to reinstall it). For those who don't know, the Ubuntu version numbering system is based on the release date. The current version, which is 9.04, has been release in April (04) 2009.

I recently posted screenshots of my desktop in the desktop topic, I repost this, inside spoiler tags :
Spoiler:
Having installed Ubuntu 9.04 yesterday (to replace the old 8.04 who died), here's my current desktop :


The Ranma½ wallpaper came from my Windows desktop, I imported my winXP profile data during the install process.

In one year, there was so much progress regarding the free ATI drivers provided with Linux distros that my ATI Radeon 7000 graphical card now fully supports graphical and 3D effects !
Here's a screenshot of my 3D Cube after I installed the Compiz-Fusion settings manager and activated the cube :

I was already using many opensource softwares for most of my tasks (Firefox, VLC, Gimp, Inkscape, Notepad++, wampserver, openoffice.org), so this made my transition easier.

And what motivated me to migrate : After Vista's flop inside my family (my brother hated it so much, so he went back to xp), then my disk crash I had at the end of 2007, I began considering a migration. And I like to learn new stuff, and one day, I saw a French tutorial that explained well what is Linux and how it looks and so, this helped me in considering the migration.
Then I collected info regarding my hardware compatibility, then a few months after, I did the big move : I partitioned my first hard drive, to install Ubuntu alongside with Windows XP, and have my home directory in a separated partition for safety reasons (separating the home directory from the system gives the advantage that I don't lose it if the system breaks and needs reinstall)

As I have a 5 years old computer (Intel Pentium 4, 2.8GHz, 1GB RAM, ATI Radeon 7000) that came with a HP printer, its hardware has a very high compatibility rate, but from 8.04 to 9.04, the biggest improvement was my ATI graphic card's 3D acceleration support.

Ubuntu is now my main OS. I only use Win XP if there's something I have to do and that I can't do it on Ubuntu.


And for your last question, I don't think it's spam. I was actually thinking about creating a topic about Linux, but now that you've opened one, I can discuss about it as I have now one year of experience.

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Post by Nessa on August 6th 2009, 12:28 pm

Haha Cornelia, you are the only reason I've kept this topic open this long, I've been waiting for your input on this to school some of these members, this topic was made for you hun, tehe. Lol

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by zadarmo3 on August 6th 2009, 10:20 pm

Ahhh, I didn't think I'll find somebody using Ubuntu on this forum.

I'm not an really experienced Linux user, but I'm good enough to use Google.

So, I made my own Polish remix...

And... All of those file hostings just work so slow while my buggy iso 1gb file waits for releasing it.

I also tried Fedora and Freespire, and I was disappointed... Just because of my creepy b43-legacy drivers that I made working by installing modconf..

And I tried NimbleX, but, that version of it was from... 2007.... And that NimbleX didn't even have properiaty drivers for my monitor..

And I can't make my sister like Ubuntu.

Last time she had to put a new "legal" system, and I wanted her to choose: Ubuntu or Vista from HP_RECOVERY. She choosed Vista and we worked on it until 2:00 AM....

Then... we finally found a legal XP CD....

So, if she has chosen Ubuntu, we would end installing "legal" system at max. 10:00 PM....

4 wasted hours...

Who said Windows is simplier than Linux?

And a true story:

What was the easiest part of ComputerBuild Expert Magazine for 7 year old girl?

LINUX PART!

True Very Happy

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by Cornelia on August 6th 2009, 11:28 pm

Ubuntu is the only distro I tested up to now, and I upgrade only once a year, because of the fact that I program in PHP and so, each time I install/reinstall, I have to set up my tools that are specific for Web development, such as my LAMP server for local testing,

Here on FM support forum, the only people I saw in the past and who were using Ubuntu were Dragon Man and Bad Wolf That's all I remember.
And on my website, we are at least 3-4 registered members to use Ubuntu, most of them are frenchies.

> Nessa : Lol, recently on a Gimp French community, a Linux user registered and introduced himself and mentioned he's a Linux user. Then I replied that I use Linux too, then a girl asked me questions about Ubuntu because she was considering about migrating, but was hesitating. I gave her all the needed French links related to Ubuntu, and told her about the existence of Linux User Groups who regularly organize install-partys where she can go to have Ubuntu installed by Linux-savvy volunteers.

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Post by DeathSoul on August 6th 2009, 11:59 pm

Can you have linux and have vista at the same time?

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Post by Tarogasini on August 7th 2009, 12:28 am

Sure, dual boot or virtual system.

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by LetItRockpenguin on August 7th 2009, 12:33 am

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by Cornelia on August 7th 2009, 12:51 am

> prodod : Yes, it's possible. But for this, you need to partition your hard drive OR to use an empty second hard drive.
More info about partitioning : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition

But if you're using a Packard Bell, HP or Compaq PC, this PC is likely to have a "tatoo" which is a vendor lock-in technique that makes the install of another operating system harder by digital watermarking the PC's hardware and so, you'll have extra precautions to take to avoid erasing any of the tattoos : http://en.kioskea.net/faq/sujet-2680-packard-bell-recovery-and-master-cd

And ultimately, you can seek for the closest Linux User Group from your home, in this list : http://www.linux.org/groups/
Linux User Groups regularly organize installfests where people can bring their PC to have Linux installed and configured by a volunteer, then have basic formation to get started.

And extra info : If you download an .iso, you must first make sure you verify the file's integrity, to make sure it isn't corrupted. For this, download md5checker, follow the howto while taking the corresponding md5 hash (a serie of 32 alphanumeric character) provided at the same place where you downloaded the .iso file.
And about burning ISOs, don't use Windows' default burning wizard, it is known to suck at burning ISOs. If you have Easy CD Creator or Nero, use it and make sure you burn your CD as an ISO image CD and not as data CD. Otherwise, install CD Burner XP and follow the howto about burning ISO images.
You can also have one CD shipped for free by using the shipit.ubuntu.com service. Count at least 2-3 weeks between the order and the arrival.

Once the CD correctly burned, you can test Ubuntu without installing it. This is a nice way to discover it and test your hardware compatibility before installing it. But for this, you have to make sure youc PC boots on CDs. If it doesn't boot on CD (it's often the case with laptops), the boot order can be configured in the BIOS.
Generally, if a PC already had a hard disk replacement or a complete format, and uses a retail version of Windows, just like my PC, it's already configured to boot on CD. More info about boot order and how to change it : http://pcsupport.about.com/b/2008/05/15/how-to-change-boot-order-in-bios.htm


If any quesiton, don't hesitate.

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by zadarmo3 on August 7th 2009, 1:47 pm

Now I'm writing to you all from my remixed-ready-to-make-iso Ubuntu.

Well, I already have an iso file of my remix, but it's soo buggy. I found about 3 things not working at the startup:

sudo command:

/etc/sudoers is mode 777 should be 440

and a message about $/HOME priviledges

And that from the Live session user called uzytkownik I can change the root password.

Althought, It was useful to log in as root by typing su

then typing chmod 440 /etc/sudoers

I was wondering to try out Linux Mint Live CD, I have some empty cds ready to burn..

And an iso file from ComputerBuild magazine...

I made my mom like Ubuntu only for one reason: there are better free marble/balls/tetris/mouse games to install from Add/Remove programs Very Happy

A screen-shot of my remixed Ubuntu:

http://i27.tinypic.com/rbxw5g.png

P.S: Did you know that Ubuntu has a version that can run on PowerPC? (old macs)

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by WhitePoint on September 23rd 2009, 9:23 pm

I have Linux Ubuntu 9.04 and I like

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by Cornelia on September 23rd 2009, 11:04 pm

Welcome in the ubunteros club, DarkPoint Smile

Some of you may already know that Ubuntu 9.10, codenamed Karmic Koala, is on the go. But personnally, I won't upgrade until 10.04 (codenamed Lucid Lynx), the next Long Time Support version, will come and have the first bugs fixed after its release.

What's cool with Ubuntu is that even if you change version, you don't need to buy a new PC (then discard the old one) to meet the system requirements, unlike Windows (for which Vista has insane requirements), since Ubuntu's system requirements don't change a lot. It runs well on my Pentium 4, and future version will still run on my P4 without problem. And Xubuntu, its lightweight variant, can even run on a P3, so you can give a second life to older PCs with Linux, so we can say that Linux is more ecological than Windows.

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by efbe on September 24th 2009, 2:51 am

I use Ubuntu on an old pc which is a 1.4 ghz with 250 meg of ram, runs sweet as. Iv'e only just started mucking around with this system and i'm impressed. Takes a bit of getting used to but there's plenty of help out there if needed.
One thing i like is Ubuntu is free and you can get some disks sent right to your home free of charge no matter where you live. For those who want to give it a try i recommend using an older pc as Cornelia posted, play around with it and you will find how good it really is. Worth looking at IMO and it costs you nothing.

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by shamzblueworld on September 24th 2009, 6:06 am

yea my friend got that free home delievery few months back i m also ordering today, lets see what happens, they say it can take up to 10 weeks, but i think it will be little sooner than that.
so i will also join this ubunto club in few weeks time. btw i m using vista at the moment so i m plannig to use both at a time. gonna see that how to partion link that cornelia gave.
Cheers!

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by Mike Ranger on October 2nd 2009, 8:05 pm

I first started using Linux Ubuntu gutsy Gibbon 7.10 till they discontinued support, I still have a copy of it on an old Gateway Windows 98 dinosaur box running a amateur radio program, last time I booted the computer was 270 days ago, it should be coming up on a forced shutdown soon. I never could get it to find the sound card though which doesn't matter anyway since the program doesn't use sound unless I wanted it to then you have to install "Festival". Uses a FireFox browser which I like I cannot stand Windows Internet Exploder.

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by shamzblueworld on October 15th 2009, 3:41 pm

well i have just recieved the ubunto cd today and now i want to install it along side vista which i m currently using.
now when i insall and reach the step where you have to select which partition to select, i select the next disk to C in which i have installed vista, when i select that and forward it displays an error saying that no root system was found,
now what is this error about and how to get rid of it?
please can any one tell me how to install ubunto in another disk?

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by Cornelia on October 16th 2009, 3:22 am

@shamzblueworld wrote:well i have just recieved the ubunto cd today and now i want to install it along side vista which i m currently using.
now when i insall and reach the step where you have to select which partition to select, i select the next disk to C in which i have installed vista, when i select that and forward it displays an error saying that no root system was found,
now what is this error about and how to get rid of it?
please can any one tell me how to install ubunto in another disk?

I never encountered this problem, my XP was detected without any problem, I just had to launch a chkdsk from Windows XP so I can resize the partition.

So, I cannot help you on this, so all I can suggest you is to post on Ubuntu English support forum : http://ubuntuforums.org/
You have more chance to have an appropriate answer to your problem. You can also check out the wiki pages to look if there's a page about this kind of issue.

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by shamzblueworld on October 16th 2009, 6:38 am

ok, thanx.
if anyone can help please go ahead. i will check there too.

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by shamzblueworld on October 17th 2009, 11:44 am

well i have sorted out that problem and now i m running both vista and ubunto,
but there is a problem with ubunto, First some times it shows a problem before opening and not open atall. i ll tell this later but for now there are no plugins installed there, i mean it do not play any music either audio or video, it says that it require some kinda plugin which is not in the disk aswell.
so what should i do now?

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by Cornelia on October 18th 2009, 5:56 am

@shamzblueworld wrote:well i have sorted out that problem and now i m running both vista and ubunto,
but there is a problem with ubunto, First some times it shows a problem before opening and not open atall. i ll tell this later but for now there are no plugins installed there, i mean it do not play any music either audio or video, it says that it require some kinda plugin which is not in the disk aswell.
so what should i do now?

About the music plugins, it's normal, because formats such as MP3, WMA and Divx aren't free of rights, or even from nasty software patents. So, Canonical, the company that supports Ubuntu, preferred to not preinstall those plugins, and let their users install them, in order to prevent juridical issues related to patents.

So, if you open a MP3 or an AVI, you are normally notified that plugins are required, and ask you if you want to install them. Just install them. Or you can go simpler and just install mplayer or vlc who read most audio formats.

And about Flash, which is also nonfree, Firefox normally notifies you about it and so, just install Adobe's plugin.

Assuming you're using Jaunty, don't hesitate to take a look to the documentation and bookmark it : https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/index.html

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by shamzblueworld on October 19th 2009, 9:55 am

yes i was also thinking of trying out vlc, thanx for cinfirming that.
i will try that help site later but could you tell me how to set up an internet connection on ubunto? i mean i couldnt found how to set a dial up connection.

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by KoolK on October 19th 2009, 10:25 am

@Nessa wrote:Haha Cornelia, you are the only reason I've kept this topic open this long, I've been waiting for your input on this to school some of these members, this topic was made for you hun, tehe.

It took me a while to read, and I in no way was convinced of using Linux. What a shame.

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by Cornelia on October 19th 2009, 11:16 pm

@shamzblueworld wrote:yes i was also thinking of trying out vlc, thanx for cinfirming that.
i will try that help site later but could you tell me how to set up an internet connection on ubunto? i mean i couldnt found how to set a dial up connection.

I know there's Network Manager, but I never had to configure it, my cable ethernet connection was recognized out of the box.

I dook a look in the docs pages and I found this about dialup : https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/internet/C/modem.html

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by shamzblueworld on October 20th 2009, 5:23 am

okay thanx. but you know that vlc thing is not working because its not installing vlc, when i click on the installer vlc.exe(something like that) it opens with some other program and show an error. no installing sofware is opening as an installation, so i dont know how to open it/install it. did you faced such kinda problem?
if not then through which program i have to open it if i click that open with other application/program because by default its not installing anything.

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by Cornelia on October 21st 2009, 7:45 am

@shamzblueworld wrote:okay thanx. but you know that vlc thing is not working because its not installing vlc, when i click on the installer vlc.exe(something like that) it opens with some other program and show an error. no installing sofware is opening as an installation, so i dont know how to open it/install it. did you faced such kinda problem?
if not then through which program i have to open it if i click that open with other application/program because by default its not installing anything.

To install programs, go to Applications > Add/remove

Then you have a list of programs, classified by categores. You select what you want to install, then you apply. You'll have to enter the admin password, which is the same as the one of your account that was created when you installed Ubuntu. Having to enter a password for installing/uninstalling is for security purpose. You also need an internet connection to install programs since they're downloaded from distant servers called "repositories" where the programs' packages are stored and maintained by the Ubuntu community.

I indicated you the graphical way since you're new to Ubuntu, but there's also a command-line way to install programs, which is much faster (Applications > Accessories > Terminal) :
Code:
sudo apt-get install <program name>

But as long as you aren't familiar with the console, use the graphical way.

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Post by shamzblueworld on October 21st 2009, 1:58 pm

is internet connection compulsary for the command line way too?
well in those categories there was no vlc there, i also use the search box but it didnt find vlc which is in one of my drives.
in the code you mentioned should i put the location of the vlc? or just its name? going to check that modem link you provided earliar but i also have to install a sofware for the connection, what about that? if installation needs internet connection so what about installing the software of the connection?

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by WhitePoint on October 21st 2009, 6:02 pm

@Cornelia wrote:Welcome in the ubunteros club, DarkPoint

Some of you may already know that Ubuntu 9.10, codenamed Karmic Koala, is on the go. But personnally, I won't upgrade until 10.04 (codenamed Lucid Lynx), the next Long Time Support version, will come and have the first bugs fixed after its release.

What's cool with Ubuntu is that even if you change version, you don't need to buy a new PC (then discard the old one) to meet the system requirements, unlike Windows (for which Vista has insane requirements), since Ubuntu's system requirements don't change a lot. It runs well on my Pentium 4, and future version will still run on my P4 without problem. And Xubuntu, its lightweight variant, can even run on a P3, so you can give a second life to older PCs with Linux, so we can say that Linux is more ecological than Windows.

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Re: Linux (Ubuntu)

Post by Cornelia on October 22nd 2009, 5:55 am

@shamzblueworld wrote:is internet connection compulsary for the command line way too?
well in those categories there was no vlc there, i also use the search box but it didnt find vlc which is in one of my drives.
in the code you mentioned should i put the location of the vlc? or just its name? going to check that modem link you provided earliar but i also have to install a sofware for the connection, what about that? if installation needs internet connection so what about installing the software of the connection?

Yes, the internet connection is compulsory.

For the code, you cannot type the location, just the name.

For the modem thing, I cannot help you much since I have never encountered this issue : It's been since 2004 that we switched from that singing dialup modem to high-speed connection, and I'm currently on a cable/DSL connection. So, it's getting out ot my competence field and so, the only advice I can give you is that if you still have questions related to your modem issue, is to post on the ubuntu support forum, you have more chances to find someone who will have the competences to help you since it's a specialized community.

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Post by shamzblueworld on October 22nd 2009, 6:04 am

ok thank you so much for your support. that was really nice of you

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