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Important [Only Topic] Why advertisement ????

Post by maiquang on November 10th 2010, 10:04 am

First topic message reminder :

I have a great time with the other members but Why advertisement column reappear.

Made an Only Topic



@Typlo wrote:Dear user,

I'm sorry for the inconvenience it may have caused, the ads are here to support our developers and the staff so we can offer you new features.

This is only a test for the moment. Wink

Latest Update:
@Typlo wrote:We have taken into consideration your complaints, and due to popular demand we will add back the option "guests" in your admin panel.

So everything will be back to normal on your forums, but if you want to support us please keep the option as it is. Wink

We are sorry for the inconvenience, and will be studying new revenue ways for next year, the option Goldman26 mentioned on Page 10 seems a nice alternative.

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Post by imperialgunnery on November 15th 2010, 8:59 pm

Im the English Admin / Fouder of our Forum but the option is still not there ?



Any help would be great

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Post by paor on November 15th 2010, 9:35 pm

This is usually the case on my forum and I think that guests contribute a lot more revenue so that should not be a problem around this controversy


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Important Re: [Only Topic] Why advertisement ????

Post by Evanbuddy16 on November 15th 2010, 9:45 pm

Yeah it appears that the Options for the Ads have dissapeared all together? I don't have any ads on my forum, but where did the options go?

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Important Re: [Only Topic] Why advertisement ????

Post by Plastic Nev. on November 15th 2010, 10:48 pm

As moderator of the computer section of the forum I am a member of, I have suggested that all our members should install ad blocking software, it is free and two different types are available for either Internet Explorer or Firfox browsers, with maybe other software available for Chrome, Safari or other browsers.
The add blocking software for Internet Explorer is " Simple Addblock" available for download here=
http://www.ieaddons.com/gb/details/toolbars/Simple_Adblock/

and for Firefox it is called "Addblock Plus" and is available from here=
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865/

Once these are installed as add ons to your browser, most adverts are blocked from appearing on your screen. End of problem wherever you go, no more adverts anywhere.
It is well worth mentioning this to all your forum members, OK it doesn't stop Forumotion from sending these adverts, it just stops them from interfering with your pleasure. Forumotion get paid by the advertisers, we don't see the adverts. Seems good to me.
I just wish there was some way to block the adverts on my television programs.

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Post by Azuolas on November 16th 2010, 1:36 am

Good for you that Forumotion wont get any money? Do you understand, that Forumotion need to pay for your hosting and domain? If everyone would do that, Forumotion would be forced to close.

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Post by batmansblonde on November 16th 2010, 3:19 am

I just want to add my voice that the ads on my site are totally inappropriate. I understand that something is going to be done soon and am waiting with bated breath.

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Post by Leviosa on November 16th 2010, 11:06 am

@batmansblonde wrote:I just want to add my voice that the ads on my site are totally inappropriate. I understand that something is going to be done soon and am waiting with bated breath.

The problem is solved, the option is back in your admin panel. Wink


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No support via private message



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Post by Raziel21 on November 16th 2010, 11:41 am

Yes, the option is here again. Thanks.

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Post by Annie on November 16th 2010, 2:56 pm

I'm hosting a site in England and I don't have the options back. Just the option to Reduce the number of displays for images advertisments :

I've performed a full refresh [ctrl+F5] and also cleared my cache.

Any idea what I can do please? The ads are in-appropriate for members of my site


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Important Re: [Only Topic] Why advertisement ????

Post by imperialgunnery on November 16th 2010, 3:12 pm

@Typlo wrote:
@batmansblonde wrote:I just want to add my voice that the ads on my site are totally inappropriate. I understand that something is going to be done soon and am waiting with bated breath.

The problem is solved, the option is back in your admin panel. Wink

Hi Typlo i appreciate that you will be very busy this week buddy but the options have not come back on my forum (i put a screen shot in my earlier post on the top of this page 17).

If you could get chance to look at it that would be greatly appreciated.

I fully support FM and pay for my domain, gallery space and storage and understand the need for FM to create revenue to continue to porivde your free services.

Any help would be great Smile

Kind regards

Jay

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Post by Laughing Assassin on November 16th 2010, 3:34 pm

i think the options are back for forum founders only.

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Post by Annie on November 16th 2010, 3:56 pm

@Laughing Assassin wrote:i think the options are back for forum founders only.

ahhh thanks. Although I am the forum founder, I actually created the forum with an 'admin' account and then a user admin account. I logged on as admin and the options are there. Problem solved for me.

Thanks

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Post by Evanbuddy16 on November 16th 2010, 4:27 pm

The option for the Ads is gone



Where did they go? I don't have any Ads issues, and i don't want any Ads for members, i just want to know what happened to them.

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Post by imperialgunnery on November 16th 2010, 8:18 pm

@Laughing Assassin wrote:i think the options are back for forum founders only.

Reading all the posts its clear that many of us (myself included) are the forum founders yet the option still hasnt returned for us.

Cheers Jay

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Important Re: [Only Topic] Why advertisement ????

Post by Plastic Nev. on November 16th 2010, 8:20 pm

@Azuolas wrote:Good for you that Forumotion wont get any money? Do you understand, that Forumotion need to pay for your hosting and domain? If everyone would do that, Forumotion would be forced to close.

Forumotion will still get the money, they will still host the adverts.
The advertisers who are paying, don't care if you see them or not. The paperwork goes in to the taxman so they can claim tax back on the expense, that is all they care about, getting tax back. Very few larger companies who do advertise via Forumotion don't actually bother if their adverts bring extra customers or not.
So in short, block the adverts from appearing on your own computer, and it is quite unlikely it will hurt anyone.

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Important Re: [Only Topic] Why advertisement ????

Post by Prizm on November 16th 2010, 8:56 pm

@Typlo wrote:Dear users,

I'm sorry to inform you that the option won't be available for your particular countries. We made an effort for the English community, but it has been decided during the weekend that unfortunately it won't be spread to all other communities.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience this may cause.

Typlo is very unprofessional and just trying to get a reaction to see how far he can abuse members before they leave Forumotion.

You don't make decisions like this and then reverse them hours later. The whole point is to gauge public reaction. It's very unprofessional and immature. Keep it up, Typlo. Sooner or later people will have enough of your games and the bad news about forumotion will spread all over the net.

My own forum generates over 120,000 pageviews a year (according to google analytics). Why do you insist on aggravating the people who are generating revenue for you?

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Post by patiogardener on November 16th 2010, 10:19 pm

Do not know why you are bagging Typlo, Prizm. My belief is that he has behaved well through all of this. Especially with all the unwarranted abuse that has been hurled at him. Typlo is an employee of Forumotion, not the owner & would just be carrying orders from his employers.

Anyway, if you are indeed from Australia, as your flag indicates, then you would have had your Guest option, for ads, returned on Fri/Sat as I did.

Also, page view numbers would not necessarily indicate that it was someone who could be interested in the ads, that viewed your forum, it could well have been spammers or spambots. We all get plenty of those.

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Post by Prizm on November 17th 2010, 1:03 am

You're right, I may have been a little hasty in blaming Typlo in particular for these decisions. I do not know for sure if he is the administrator of Forumotion or not, but my impression from this forum has been that he is involved in the decision making.

It's a lot easier to make decisions as a boss if you can say "we did it" and not "I did it".

My actual accusations still stand. If not at Typlo, then at whomever is running the show. This is the 4th or 5th time that I remember Forumotion has made some big controversial decision out of the blue and then reversed it almost immediately when people got upset. Their whole method of public relations and customer service is unprofessional and damages customer trust. We have no idea what stunt they will pull next time.

I said in a previous post on this thread that I would've considered paying to remove ads if Forumotion had treated customers with respect and not pulled these stunts all the time. All they needed to do was present the problem so we understand what's going on (funds getting low, need some revenue), let us know ads are the best way to go at the moment, and if we pay to remove ads then they can provide an incentive like a couple extra forum features.

Instead, they underhandedly make big changes on the forums, and then tell us stuff like "it's a test" or "an accident", and then we get no straight answers until the change is reversed.

I've already spent significant money on Google Adwords advertising my site, so I don't mind paying to support my forum if I felt Forumotion was providing good customer service and communication. Unfortunately at this stage I simply don't trust them. What if I pay to remove ads and they do something else to my site to try and generate revenue (like links redirecting to ads)? I can't trust them due to their previous behaviour.

As for pageviews, at the end of the day numbers do make a difference. The higher the visits, the higher the percentage of actual revenue. Everyone gets spammers and bots and people who don't click ads, but at the end of the day the higher amount of views (with all that included) increases the percentage of revenue.
I'm certain there's plenty of other members that get much more hits than me. But my point is that I didn't just make a forum on a whim and never put any effort into it. I've put time, effort and money in, and all of that at the end of the day generates revenue for Forumotion.

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Post by Bokssha on November 17th 2010, 12:07 pm


Option is back , for users in Serbia , thank you Forumotion....
Please , in the future , if you are gonna testing again , consider a option for adds to stay in the bottom
of forum.... Thank you again.

:wouhou:

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Important Re: [Only Topic] Why advertisement ????

Post by chevyN on November 17th 2010, 3:02 pm

@Typlo wrote:
The problem is solved,

Yep, Problem solved, i deleted my forum, never i have seen so much disrespect towards the users, it takes several pages before even someone reacts, then they come up with a lame excuse.



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