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Post by Cornelia January 30th 2008, 8:33 pm

Hello.

It's been a while I'm thinking about creating a topic where people can ask questions about building a website. This is meant to be "only-topic" so I am looking for validation by a moderator.

First of all, here are useful links. If you have useful links to propose, post them.

Free FTP hosting
- http://www.stonerocket.net
- http://www.websiteceo.com/

Learning to build a website
- http://newbiesparadise.com
- http://www.csszengarden.com/
- http://www.w3schools.com/php/default.asp
- http://www.learnphpfree.com/

FTP Clients
- http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/ (Windows and Linux)
- http://cyberduck.ch/ (for MAC only)
- http://gftp.org/ (for linux)
- http://sourceforge.net/projects/jfxp/ (Requires Java Runtime Environment)

Firefox add-ons
http://fireftp.mozdev.org/ (FTP)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/60 (Web Development tool)
http://getfirebug.com/ (Web Development tool)
https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/1419?id=1419 (Embeds IE in a Firefox tab)

HTML / PHP editor
- http://www.nvu.com/
- http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/
- http://devphp.sourceforge.net/
- http://tswebeditor.tigris.org/
- http://www.crimsoneditor.com/
- http://www.textpad.com/

Tools for testing PHP scripts on your computer
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wampserver/ (Windows)
http://www.mamp.info/en/index.php (Mac)
http://www.lamphowto.com/ (Linux - look in your distro's documentation)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/xampp/ (cross platform - if you're using Linux, look in your distro's documentation)

Blog to download and install on your host
http://www.dotclear.net/en/
http://wordpress.org/
http://www.simplephpblog.com/index.php (doesn't require any mysql database)
http://blogcms.com/

Forum to download and install on your host
http://www.phpbb.com (open source)
http://www.mybboard.net/ (open source since October 12th 2008)
http://www.punbb.com/ or its fork http://fluxbb.org/ (both open source)
http://www.simplemachines.org/ (freeware)
http://www.vbulletin.com/ (paid license)
http://www.invisionpower.com/community/board/index.html (paid license)

Note for Linux users : For softwares available for Linux, I recommend you to look first in your package manager (ex: Synaptic if you are under Ubuntu), they are usually available there and are installable in two clicks. I insist at this point because we see Linux newbies having the Windowsish reflex to search on the net to download and having trouble to compile a .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 archive of the software they want while it's already available as a pre-compiled package in their package manager.


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Post by Bad Wolf January 30th 2008, 9:09 pm

another good FTP/Web CLient Managment tool is WebCEO
+ http://www.websiteceo.com/

i also use/used these HTML/php editors
+ Crimson Editor (has a built in FTP)
http://www.crimsoneditor.com/

+ Text Pad v5.0
http://www.textpad.com/
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Post by Caihlem January 30th 2008, 9:12 pm

Validated Smile

Was thinking of making this myself, but wasn't sure because I'm not an expert in this field Wink
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Post by hamidi.ilies January 31st 2008, 1:06 pm

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Edit Eximma : Please speak in English on this forum !
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Post by Cornelia January 31st 2008, 9:46 pm

> Bad Wolf : Updated Wink

I will talk about my own experience : When I first decided to build a website for my graphics kits, I tried to build a page with MS Word and the trial wasn't successful. Meanwhile, I heard about Le Site du Zéro (the French version of Newbies Paradise) and I decided to follow their tutorials. That's when I discovered XHTML which is the modern way to build Web pages.

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The differences between HTML and XHTML :
- In HTML, presentation and structure are mixed, wether we use CSS or not. In XHTML, the presentation is completely separated from the structure.
- In HTML, most of the structure is built with tables and the "semantic way" (coding according to the tags' meaning) is not very followed. In XHTML, tables must be used only for information classification (standings, web host list with its characteristics, etc.), and we have to code our pages as semantic as possible (use h1 for the main title, p for paragraphs, ul, li for menus), in order to improve the web page's accessibility.

So, the advantages of XHTML and structures without tables
- Structures built with tables are heavier to load for low-speed connection than structure built with divs, lists, paragraphs.
- Separating the presentation from the structure makes the design modification much easier since you just need to modify the CSS to relook your pages.
- In a structure built with tables, semantic tags (h1, h2, p) are "drowned" into tables and are less visible for search engine bots (who are blind) and blind people who use adapted navigators. A well-coded structure, without tables and without abuse of divs, will be easier to navigate for blind people and to reference.

So the best way to build a well-coded website is to use a plain text editor such as Notepad++ to type your code yourself, and to avoid MS Frontpage which generates heavy HTML code.

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Then I built my first website in XHTML. Then recently, when I moved, I added PHP to use custom modules and to use include functions to show my menus, after having followed tutorials on the same website where I learned XHTML. Their tutorials are easy to follow, even for n00bs.

I think that's all for now.
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Post by acef596 March 2nd 2008, 5:54 am

Hope this wouldn't count as an old bump or spam but you should add this host www.ismywebsite.com
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Post by Adiex March 2nd 2008, 6:46 am

try this one, maybe its kinda take abit your time to learn it but its really worthy Smile

www.joomla.org
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Post by Guest March 11th 2008, 10:32 pm

does anyone know any good free website templates site?

i'm looking for something like this http://www.sbtca.com/ site
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Post by Bad Wolf March 11th 2008, 10:34 pm

google "Free Website Template"
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"Free HTML Templates" or any combination of Flash, CSS, etc ..
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Post by Guest March 11th 2008, 10:37 pm

i have but i keep getting shitty templates scratch that why i am asking
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Post by Caihlem March 11th 2008, 10:42 pm

Merged with the Only-Topic Wink
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Post by Guest April 1st 2008, 2:12 pm

does anyone know how to make a guest book on website ( i dont really eant to use a free one)
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Post by Cornelia April 1st 2008, 9:23 pm

> spook : Do you have at least some knowledge in PHP and MySQL ? Because these two languages are necessary to build a homemade guestbook. For a basic guestbook, an intermediate level is sufficient.

PHP is a dynamic language who's interpreted on the server's side, and MySQL is used to manage data. For example, this support forum is managed with PHP and MySQL. A simple page with only HTML couldn't do that.
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Post by Guest April 2nd 2008, 12:05 am

not really but if you tell me what to do Very Happy i'm a fast learner

here the website i have made www.staffy-bull-terrier.co.uk i know it's not the greatest, but it's not bad for a beginner
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Post by alexsteven September 7th 2008, 1:32 pm

It's very interesting!
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