New staff user group ~ Template Mangers

[Master Marc]

Hello,

I would like to suggest a new staff user group & forum to forumotion's support forum,

It's a forum where members request coded website homepages for their forums.

You see, not much members know about website designing at this forum, so other members with knowledge in this area can help them out by creating it for them so that they can use it,

And, with every new forum, comes a new staff user group,

I did some research, and I've seen "theme creators" suggested already, but this is not the same as the "theme creators" user group. They create skins/themes for your forums, which graphic designers can already handle, but this new user group has to design and code a website template to be used for member's forums.

I do not have any great names for the new user group or the new forum, but this topic is open for suggestions.

New Forum's Name - Request A Website Template
New UserGroup's Name - Template Manager

And, ofcourse, the rules for this forum will be simple, and you must have a forumotion forum to request or you'll be refused,

I do not support members asking for this in the support forum of forumotion, , because members will have to devote time into creating this website template for requesters, and you don't want to lose your topic after creating it for them, , or want to see website template requests mixed up with support questions, .

So, let's here everyone's comments about this,

[MrMega]

No.

1) Members will request IMPOSSIBLE request just like graphics, or templates just like Jalo does.
2) YOU would want to be in it, which is TOTALLY wrong
3) Members would probably not request because it is not popular to request HTML pages...
4) It would require a LOT of posting/PMing for just the precise HTML page
5) They might request little codes, which they should request in the Script (code) problems section
6) Goes along with reason number 5; one staff member of the group would take about a week just trying to do 1 REQUEST
78,908,765) There aren't many coders on this forum besides Jalo, and he doesn't have much time on him hands to become a staff member of the group.

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Yeah.

[Mehtevas]

Grat idea, but who wopuld do it?

[Master Marc]

Finally, a reply, . Now, for the quick reply back stab.

Members will request IMPOSSIBLE request just like graphics, or templates just like Jalo does

The person will do his or her own graphics. It's just the style of the template the person will complete for the requester.

2) YOU would want to be in it, which is TOTALLY wrong

If I get a chance, then I'll take it because am fine in this field. But, I also wanted to request one from Jalo,

3) Members would probably not request because it is not popular to request HTML pages

You don't see people requesting because there is not a forum like this one yet,

4) It would require a LOT of posting/PMing for just the precise HTML page

This might be true, but the member will have to explain what he or she wishes to have. ( The homepage will generally match the forum )

5) They might request little codes, which they should request in the Script (code) problems section

They will not be allowed to request little based codes on this new forum.

6) Goes along with reason number 5; one staff member of the group would take about a week just trying to do 1 REQUEST
78,908,765) There aren't many coders on this forum besides Jalo, and he doesn't have much time on him hands to become a staff member of the group.

This is the exact thing that came across my mind, but you'll be surprised, there are a lot more than you think,
But, with the right request layout, it will not take a long time to complete,

[LilJur]

Im gona need to say no.

The people who are able to do this will be overloaded with request.
And some might be busy already (for example me, doing 1 website and 2 forums already).

Also, we coders did this to have a special forum, not something everyone has.
As a coder you do not like to give just alot scripts away because we will betray all secrets if you see my point.

[Master Marc]

Im gona need to say no.

The people who are able to do this will be overloaded with request.
And some might be busy already (for example me, doing 1 website and 2 forums already).

Also, we coders did this to have a special forum, not something everyone has.
As a coder you do not like to give just alot scripts away because we will betray all secrets if you see my point.

This suggestion was suggested for the members that can't create coded website templates, it's there lost

And, am sure there will be a lot of members requesting this, and the new forum will be flooded out with requests, even the members that voted "no". Am not calling any names like MrMega, , anonymous guest number 1 and number 2...

As a coder you do not like to give just alot scripts away because we will betray all secrets if you see my point.

You keep the best for yourself, ( You will not be sharing scripts here , we already have a forum for that ). I have a lot of coded website templates stored on one of my computers, that's why I suggested this,

But, I am also busy most of the times,

[kirk]

Well it's not a bad idea.

But there would have to be some kind of applications that was filled out to the members specifications theme. etc.. then you have to find members that have the knowledge and are willing to work on this for members placing the request. it would have to be lead by a qualified team and of course it would have to be approved by forumotion..

All and all it's not a bad idea.. but it can take some work to organise a good team that would be dictated to doing this for members.. The funny thing is me and Darren already have a forum where people can request things like this. but right now we are temporarily closed until i get the x-mas theme up... lol

but we have a policy in place on how it's all conducted as well.
But i vote yes and would be willing to help try to organise a team after the holidays and only if forumotion where to approve this. honestly they have the graphics,and review sections already as well the gm running the promotions boards and everthing else.. so it might be hard for them to approve something like this right now.. but then again depending on who would be willing to do it and submitting a detailed description to forumotion it might be possible?

[Walshy95]

Does sound like a useful idea, but this is a Support Forum. A forum for support, not HTML pages. Google HTML pages if you do not know how to make your own. I would like this, but there are very few on here who can actually make HTML pages, which is a huge no no. If we got more members who could make them, then that would be better, but we don't, thus having a buck load of requests, and having no one make the requested page.

[Master Marc]

Well it's not a bad idea.

But there would have to be some kind of applications that was filled out to the members specifications theme. etc..

I couldn't suggest this if I didn't know a great layout... I have a nice idea that will work great,

then you have to find members that have the knowledge and are willing to work on this for members placing the request. it would have to be lead by a qualified team and of course it would have to be approved by forumotion..

I'll try to help as much as possible because I love these kind of things. I normally work on them in my spare time, lol.
It will be a little tough getting others to help out, due to laziness, . But, my idea of the rules for requesting can limit the number of requesters so that one or two members can handle the new forum, but there will still be a flood if this idea gets popular but it's nothing some people can't handle,

Does sound like a useful idea, but this is a Support Forum. A forum for support, not HTML pages. Google HTML pages if you do not know how to make your own. I would like this, but there are very few on here who can actually make HTML pages, which is a huge no no. If we got more members who could make them, then that would be better, but we don't, thus having a buck load of requests, and having no one make the requested page.

If they google it, and have no clue about designing website templates, then this wouldn't help them at all,

Also, at the moment, this is just a dream suggestion, because it will take a while for things to be sorted out because another new forum has been recently created. ( Forum Reviews ) . So, by the time this is looking under consideration, there will be more website designers at this forum, . ( P.S, there are some hidden ones that don't show it, heehee... )

And, you are correct, this is a support forum, and a support forum needs great services for forum owners,

( ^ Forum Reviews / Forum Promotion / Graphic Request / Ect... ^ )

[Jophy]

not a bad idea

but having more service forums would be 'exagerating', don't know but if this will be added, then this will not be a support forum but a service forum,

in my opinion, forums don't have to be having homepages to attract more guests and gain more members, the key to attract members and guests it mainly the graphics,organization and content of the forum, if you have unique smilies, images, icons etc., then more members will come.

but voted no,

the support forum is becoming more harder to control and we can't keep track of requests and support question here on the support forum and if we have another service forum like what you suggested here, more work for the global mods, even the graphics section is hard to control

so voted no.

[Master Marc]

Thanks for voting Zoids25,

P.S, I gave a comment on that problem already,

Anymore votes or comments?

[Caihlem]

Sorry, but I'll be voting No

ForuMotion's trademark (or at least one of them) is the simplicity of the forums proposed. Everything is done so as the perfect beginners can easily come up with nice forums.
A few tools allow more experiences users to customise the forums further. HMTL stuff for me fits in this category. As such, I think it best to leave it solely to experienced users. If you're not confident in your skills, then don't try it until you are. If beginners try to use out-of-range stuff, it'll be visible and will hurt the forum more then it'll help it.

Therefore, I believe it best to not create a Code Team

[Master Marc]

Hey Caihlem,

In my plan, I simplified the coding as much as possible, and there will be guidelines that browsers can't view to help those beginners out, lol.

So, there will be guidelines helping them ( Example below ) . But, am not sure if everyone will stick to those rules,

Here's an example of what am talking about on my forum :

>> http://www.iwebbuddy.com/website-templates-f4/clean-midnight-t60.htm

I have to agree with you on your comment, by the way,

Also, this might confuse them a little when viewing all that coding text in one place and they might not know what html codes to add, .

[TanMan77777777]

Hey Caihlem,

In my plan, I simplified the coding as much as possible, and there will be guidelines that browsers can't view to help those beginners out, lol.

So, there will be guidelines helping them ( Example below ) . But, am not sure if everyone will stick to those rules,

Here's an example of what am talking about on my forum :

>> http://www.iwebbuddy.com/website-templates-f4/clean-midnight-t60.htm

I have to agree with you on your comment, by the way,

Also, this might confuse them a little when viewing all that coding text in one place and they might not know what html codes to add, .

If all we have to do is make a colored table for them, then sure. That's up to 30 minutes of work depending on what they want.

If you make something and they want to see someone else try to get something better, you just wasted your time.

In some ways I think we should get it. In other ways, I we don't. It's hard to say. I don't think Forumotion will accept it because there are reasons against it than supporting it.

[Master Marc]

If all we have to do is make a colored table for them, then sure. That's up to 30 minutes of work depending on what they want.

Those that I currently have on my forum are very simple designs that I created in 20 minutes or less. ( Choosing the right color took a lot of time )

But, the best are for downloads, . ( The ones with tableless layout or css stylesheets, ect... )

If you make something and they want to see someone else try to get something better, you just wasted your time.

True, and a lot of people can get pissed off my that, .

In some ways I think we should get it. In other ways, I we don't. It's hard to say. I don't think Forumotion will accept it because there are reasons against it than supporting it.

I feel the same way, but I said "why not suggest this", ( I have no high hopes for this suggestion )
Caihlem's comment was the best reason to get this refused, that I read so far.