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    Edit/Remove Chatbox Timeout

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    Post by Doctor Inferno Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:02 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    I am suggesting that we have the option to edit or remove the timeout time for the chatbox. It gets irritating when we get kicked out of the chatbox after a shortwhile of inactivity.
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    Post by Count Dooku Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:24 am

    Of course, as I agree with Inferno.

    I am suggesting that we have the option to edit or remove the timeout time for the chatbox. It gets irritating when we get kicked out of the chatbox after a shortwhile of inactivity

    I get much more more than irritated (pissed, angry, ...) when that occurs... Every time the same issue, we get called off, and "timed out"... honestly i wonder why it's been implemented in the first place, security, hacking???

    So, yes dear, both issues are different but note that I ain't the first one to raise it. I want to know the reason behind the person coming up with that idea, as to why he proposed it or asked it...

    If it is suggested to make a new poll then why not?
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    Post by brandon_g Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:13 pm

    If you want to make a new go right ahead count, I am not stopping you. I just want this feature at the moment though!



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    Post by Count Dooku Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:17 pm

    i don't feel the need but will vote in favour if the poll opens as this idea (visibility) will come in handy on chatboxes for people who are already invisible.

    personally i am in favour of canceling or increasing the cutoff time on chatboxes from 10 to 60 minutes if there is no way to eliminate it completely.
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    Post by brandon_g Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:53 pm

    BUMPING for more votes!



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    Post by PotSmuggle Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:52 pm

    I voted yes.

    Do these suggestions even get implemented? Dx
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    Post by BL@DE Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:09 pm

    Yes
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    Post by brandon_g Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:34 pm

    PotSmuggle wrote:I voted yes.

    Do these suggestions even get implemented? Dx
    I will not even get into that..... I plead the 5th. Thank You for the Vote! Very Happy
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    Post by PotSmuggle Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:22 pm

    No problem! Hopefully this still gets implemented even after all these years. The timeout system is so bad that I'm thinking of just using an irc chatbox instead so I won't have to deal with this any more.
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    Post by brandon_g Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:51 am

    My forum has already switched to AWC....



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    Post by Guest Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:02 am

    Voted NO (just kidding Wink ).
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    Post by brandon_g Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:14 am

    Thank you for your (Just kidding) vote.... Razz Ā  (Just kidding too)



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    Post by brandon_g Thu Feb 05, 2015 11:58 pm

    Since this suggestion actually has a chance to become reality right now..... Ā  Ā  BUMP for more votes! Smile
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    Post by PotSmuggle Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:57 am

    Bump for more votes.
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    Post by brandon_g Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:38 pm

    BUMP



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    Post by JScript Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:11 pm

    I'll give one reason that prevents it from being approved:

    overload

    Just imagine that there are thousands of forums where the chat is up and running at the same time, if there is no X limit for disconnection, there will be certainly an overhead on the system because unlike a topic, the chat is full of activity for several members !

    If I'm wrong, so that people of "superior knowledge" correct me.

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    Post by Guest Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:18 pm

    JScript wrote:I'll give one reason that prevents it from being approved:

    overload

    Just imagine that there are thousands of forums where the chat is up and running at the same time, if there is no X limit for disconnection, there will be certainly an overhead on the system because unlike a topic, the chat is full of activity for several members !

    If I'm wrong, so that people of "superior knowledge" correct me.

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    Overloading what exactly, @JScript? The servers got replaced 3 months ago, lots of people are using broadband connections or something alike nowadays. I think that time-out rule is based on old designs. Some forums have tens or even hundreds of users in chat. If the time-out is disabled, still the inactive user will be disconnected automatically after 60 minutes of inactivity, right? And if not, (chat)mods and admins can still kick a user off chat if necessary. And with the new chatbox codes there will be less requests done over the network. Wink
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    Post by JScript Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:26 pm

    @SamanthaS

    I do not know what level of their technical knowledge, so I wrote:
    If I'm wrong, so that people of "superior knowledge" correct me.

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    Post by brandon_g Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:30 pm

    It is the most hated feature of them all! I give us a tick box in the acp... if not they re did the chatbox for nothing!



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    Post by JScript Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:33 pm

    Of course not! What's so hard to click "Login" ?!
    And after a while be disconnected ?!

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    Post by Guest Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:35 pm

    JScript wrote:Of course not! What's so hard to click "Login" ?!
    And after a while be disconnected ?!

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    It's annoying. That's what it is. And clicking 'login' will produce another network request as well instead of staying online in chat. Wink
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    Post by brandon_g Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:46 pm

    Yes it is not hard at all, but if someone stops chatting to post around for 2 seconds they get disconnected. It is annoying. Ā  Ā I can deal with it but my users hate it and that is the only important thing, if the users do not,like it, away with it. That is how it has to be, everything is for the member. I am sorry they do not know what forumotion is but to the basic extent so they will not understand overload or servers... they only understand it is annoying and should go away. That is why I waste my time trying to get these suggestions put in place, I vouche for my users. I would go to hell and back for them. I am supporting this and pushing this suggestion not for me but for my Members.
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    Post by SLGray Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:04 pm

    It is a way to know who exactly is active on the chatbox.



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    Post by Fierce Star Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:10 pm

    I agree with SLGray and JScript, I find the disconnection feature very useful, it'd be a pain to scroll through all those users who are supposedly 'online' and it'd make it even harder to see who's actually currently online the chatbox.
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    Post by brandon_g Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:11 pm

    Yeah I understand that but if a user goes to post around and can not chat while doing so it disconnects them. They find it annoying. That is the bottom line, if they do not like it then it needs tl go. As I said if it was just me I would not care, but I have community to run and they want it gone. I am not saying get rid of totally, but give us (the admins) the option to. Or even give us an option within the chat itself like in awc. I do not think it is terribly hard to come up with a way to give us an option. There are many ways to do it.



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    Post by Guest Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:12 pm

    SLGray wrote:It is a way to know who exactly is active on the chatbox.
    If that's the case, why not use the 'away' function instead of disconnecting people? Razz
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    Post by brandon_g Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:14 pm

    As I have mentioned before, I am not vouching to totally get rid of it, but give us the option to if we or our members want to. That way it if an admin wants it they have it, if they don't they can disable it. I would like the option to disable this feature. Most importantly my members want me to disable it.
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    Post by SLGray Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:30 pm

    Think about this: Ā someone logs in and starts to chat, but something happens and the members goes away from the computer. Ā The member does not comeback until the next day. Ā It will show that member still on.



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    Post by Guest Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:39 pm

    SLGray wrote:Think about this: Ā someone logs in and starts to chat, but something happens and the members goes away from the computer. Ā The member does not comeback until the next day. Ā It will show that member still on.
    Yeah, and 'away' as well. No problem, right? And I thought members would automatically be disconnected after 60 minutes of inactivity on the forum http://prntscr.com/62coww , so what about that?
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    Post by JScript Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:57 pm

    SLGray wrote:It is a way to know who exactly is active on the chatbox.

    SLGray wrote:Think about this: Ā someone logs in and starts to chat, but something happens and the members goes away from the computer. Ā The member does not comeback until the next day. Ā It will show that member still on.
    These two posts sums up everything!

    SamanthaS wrote:Yeah, and 'away' as well. No problem, right? And I thought members would automatically be disconnected after 60 minutes of inactivity on the forum http://prntscr.com/62coww , so what about that?
    So we must not confuse "posts on a forum" with the "posts in chats"!
    Have you observed how many messages are posted to a chat with the amount that are posted on a forum in the same period?

    You should reflect the fact that it has been almost six years and so far it has not been approved.

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    Post by brandon_g Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:09 pm

    1st off if it disconnected the user from the forum why wouldn't it do it for the chat? You have to be connected to the forum to be connected to the chat. How do we even know it wouldn't we have never been able to test the thoery. All of this is besides my point anyway, if I and my users are willing to take that risk in order to have a no disconnect feature we should be able to have that choice, not be forced to use it. It takes away the forum's and Admins indepence. If I as an admin are wiĺling to accept having inactive users showing I should be able to. That is why I am an admin, I can decide what risks I and my forum are willing to take. But it is not right to force it on my forum, my forum's community and every other forumotion community. Give us an option, that is all I ask. I am not asking for the moon!

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