The purpose of this to check whichever member is disrupting the chat instead of manually asking fellow chat mods.
Chat logs should only be seen by administrators.
LH Justin wrote:Eh, my general idea is if something is cleared in the chatbox, no one should probably see it.
With the use of chat logs, we would be able to retain proof of any member misbehaving in the chatbox.AMRES wrote: The purpose of this to check whichever member is disrupting the chat instead of manually asking fellow chat mods. Chat logs should only be seen by administrators.
It's a forum, if you think someone did something bad, ban them. I firmly believe that people shouldn't be monitored like that, even if it is your site. I'm sure whatever members and moderators are doing in the chat it has no threat on the safety or reputation of your forum.AMRES wrote:LH Justin wrote:Eh, my general idea is if something is cleared in the chatbox, no one should probably see it.With the use of chat logs, we would be able to retain proof of any member misbehaving in the chatbox.AMRES wrote: The purpose of this to check whichever member is disrupting the chat instead of manually asking fellow chat mods. Chat logs should only be seen by administrators.
LH Justin wrote:It's a forum, if you think someone did something bad, ban them. I firmly believe that people shouldn't be monitored like that, even if it is your site. I'm sure whatever members and moderators are doing in the chat it has no threat on the safety or reputation of your forum.AMRES wrote:LH Justin wrote:Eh, my general idea is if something is cleared in the chatbox, no one should probably see it.With the use of chat logs, we would be able to retain proof of any member misbehaving in the chatbox.AMRES wrote: The purpose of this to check whichever member is disrupting the chat instead of manually asking fellow chat mods. Chat logs should only be seen by administrators.
To me, archiving a chat is like recording a phone call. Just not something that should be done. I mean sure, chatboxes aren't really private but neither are phonecalls if you think about it.UltimateShinobi wrote:LH Justin wrote:It's a forum, if you think someone did something bad, ban them. I firmly believe that people shouldn't be monitored like that, even if it is your site. I'm sure whatever members and moderators are doing in the chat it has no threat on the safety or reputation of your forum.AMRES wrote:LH Justin wrote:Eh, my general idea is if something is cleared in the chatbox, no one should probably see it.With the use of chat logs, we would be able to retain proof of any member misbehaving in the chatbox.AMRES wrote: The purpose of this to check whichever member is disrupting the chat instead of manually asking fellow chat mods. Chat logs should only be seen by administrators.
Not all people believe in that policy Justin, the severity of the behaviour is what I'd base my punishment off and I'm sure many feel the same and sometimes I can not judge on the severity of the behaviour because my staff clear the chat, is this something I've spoken to them about? Yes and in most cases they'll do what is right but in the heat of the moment sometimes people forget it and it should be acceptable for administrators to look back on these sorts of things if the situation demands it.
LH Justin wrote:To me, archiving a chat is like recording a phone call. Just not something that should be done. I mean sure, chatboxes aren't really private but neither are phonecalls if you think about it.UltimateShinobi wrote:LH Justin wrote:It's a forum, if you think someone did something bad, ban them. I firmly believe that people shouldn't be monitored like that, even if it is your site. I'm sure whatever members and moderators are doing in the chat it has no threat on the safety or reputation of your forum.AMRES wrote:LH Justin wrote:Eh, my general idea is if something is cleared in the chatbox, no one should probably see it.With the use of chat logs, we would be able to retain proof of any member misbehaving in the chatbox.AMRES wrote: The purpose of this to check whichever member is disrupting the chat instead of manually asking fellow chat mods. Chat logs should only be seen by administrators.
Not all people believe in that policy Justin, the severity of the behaviour is what I'd base my punishment off and I'm sure many feel the same and sometimes I can not judge on the severity of the behaviour because my staff clear the chat, is this something I've spoken to them about? Yes and in most cases they'll do what is right but in the heat of the moment sometimes people forget it and it should be acceptable for administrators to look back on these sorts of things if the situation demands it.
Because people shouldn't be held accountable for something they typed in a chat. If it is something serious then your moderators should be able to handle it and report the offense to you. If you can't trust your moderators then maybe you should pick your staff better.UltimateShinobi wrote:LH Justin wrote:To me, archiving a chat is like recording a phone call. Just not something that should be done. I mean sure, chatboxes aren't really private but neither are phonecalls if you think about it.UltimateShinobi wrote:LH Justin wrote:It's a forum, if you think someone did something bad, ban them. I firmly believe that people shouldn't be monitored like that, even if it is your site. I'm sure whatever members and moderators are doing in the chat it has no threat on the safety or reputation of your forum.AMRES wrote:LH Justin wrote:Eh, my general idea is if something is cleared in the chatbox, no one should probably see it.With the use of chat logs, we would be able to retain proof of any member misbehaving in the chatbox.AMRES wrote: The purpose of this to check whichever member is disrupting the chat instead of manually asking fellow chat mods. Chat logs should only be seen by administrators.
Not all people believe in that policy Justin, the severity of the behaviour is what I'd base my punishment off and I'm sure many feel the same and sometimes I can not judge on the severity of the behaviour because my staff clear the chat, is this something I've spoken to them about? Yes and in most cases they'll do what is right but in the heat of the moment sometimes people forget it and it should be acceptable for administrators to look back on these sorts of things if the situation demands it.
Here on Forumotion when we want to talk to somebody personally, we would private message somebody. The chatbox is a public area and if you're behaving like an idiot or doing something inappropriate that needs to be addressed I think its fair for the administrators to have access to some sort of archive. In a phone calls case, you usually call to speak to somebody specifically so yes in more a private matter than a chatbox and if somebody is a criminal, the authorities may trace their calls if its severe enough. So why shouldn't administrators have the permission to see the logs of their chatbox?
LH Justin wrote:Because people shouldn't be held accountable for something they typed in a chat. If it is something serious then your moderators should be able to handle it and report the offense to you. If you can't trust your moderators then maybe you should pick your staff better.UltimateShinobi wrote:LH Justin wrote:To me, archiving a chat is like recording a phone call. Just not something that should be done. I mean sure, chatboxes aren't really private but neither are phonecalls if you think about it.UltimateShinobi wrote:LH Justin wrote:It's a forum, if you think someone did something bad, ban them. I firmly believe that people shouldn't be monitored like that, even if it is your site. I'm sure whatever members and moderators are doing in the chat it has no threat on the safety or reputation of your forum.AMRES wrote:LH Justin wrote:Eh, my general idea is if something is cleared in the chatbox, no one should probably see it.With the use of chat logs, we would be able to retain proof of any member misbehaving in the chatbox.AMRES wrote: The purpose of this to check whichever member is disrupting the chat instead of manually asking fellow chat mods. Chat logs should only be seen by administrators.
Not all people believe in that policy Justin, the severity of the behaviour is what I'd base my punishment off and I'm sure many feel the same and sometimes I can not judge on the severity of the behaviour because my staff clear the chat, is this something I've spoken to them about? Yes and in most cases they'll do what is right but in the heat of the moment sometimes people forget it and it should be acceptable for administrators to look back on these sorts of things if the situation demands it.
Here on Forumotion when we want to talk to somebody personally, we would private message somebody. The chatbox is a public area and if you're behaving like an idiot or doing something inappropriate that needs to be addressed I think its fair for the administrators to have access to some sort of archive. In a phone calls case, you usually call to speak to somebody specifically so yes in more a private matter than a chatbox and if somebody is a criminal, the authorities may trace their calls if its severe enough. So why shouldn't administrators have the permission to see the logs of their chatbox?
This.The Divine Clutch wrote:Definitely Yes. We certainly, certainly need this feature, as sometimes, my forum has up to 60 users or something like that in the chatbox during "parties" and there is absolutely no way for Admins to monitor the conversation(s).
And great argument UltimateShinobi
Yeah MrMario!The Divine Clutch wrote:So how about it MrMario? Godfather?
AMRES wrote:Yeah MrMario!The Divine Clutch wrote:So how about it MrMario? Godfather?
How about it?
MrMario wrote:
...If you mean by giving out warnings and closing this topic because its turning into an argument then I can do that. We really need to respect people's views and not start a fight here.
How about what? If your talking about install this to forums I can't do anything.
Only the Pro Staff has the ability to add features to our forums. We are the Volunteer Staff. We have one Pro Staff here, The Godfather.Ninja frog wrote:their are limited amount of members for an admin to make into chat moderators so they may not be compleatly reliable also it is a good way to rate their performance based on the accuracy of their punishments and any warnings that were given
also who is it that can add functions to the forums?
This was merely intended to be a suggestion; not an argument or a fight.The Divine Clutch wrote:MrMario wrote:
...If you mean by giving out warnings and closing this topic because its turning into an argument then I can do that. We really need to respect people's views and not start a fight here.
Sorry that's not what I meant. I meant could you install it?
LH Justin wrote:Only the Pro Staff has the ability to add features to our forums. We are the Volunteer Staff. We have one Pro Staff here, The Godfather.Ninja frog wrote:their are limited amount of members for an admin to make into chat moderators so they may not be compleatly reliable also it is a good way to rate their performance based on the accuracy of their punishments and any warnings that were given
also who is it that can add functions to the forums?
Yes, but he left Forumotion and is now sort of a Volunteer Staff member himself. Either that or they seized his account.The Divine Clutch wrote:LH Justin wrote:Only the Pro Staff has the ability to add features to our forums. We are the Volunteer Staff. We have one Pro Staff here, The Godfather.Ninja frog wrote:their are limited amount of members for an admin to make into chat moderators so they may not be compleatly reliable also it is a good way to rate their performance based on the accuracy of their punishments and any warnings that were given
also who is it that can add functions to the forums?
Didn't Typlo used to be Pro Staff?
-sigh-
Wish he was here
Only one pro staff though? Hmm maybe you should work on getting more >.>
Anyway, I'd really like to see this thing get approved since it is very useful. I would pay credits for this.
Xanthis wrote:If all chat logs hosted by Forumotion were recorded, wouldn't this take up massive amounts of database space?