Terrorism -- the truth about it

Well first of all before you read below, this clearly my view on the topic and I'm pointing to no one here and please don't spam this thread andtry to keep it civil

This is a sensitive issue but its truly needs discussion

well this thing poped up recently when i visited U.K (hey nothing against U.K)
I was with some veitnamese friends of mine , but given my middle eastern look cause i'm half Indian and also as i was wearing the traditional muslim clothes with cap , the security guard at a particular place at the Airport stoped and checked me and no checking of my friends took place! Well the look in his suspicious eyes clearly stated the disgust he felt against me...

well this is some serious discrimination!

well my dear friends I will like to clear one thing from your mind
Islam never teaches anything bad! even voilent reaction against such discrimination is not allowed ..also you may have noticed that Muslims although pay interest as there's no choice but we never take it , why cause we believe that "take only what you have given , not a single pie besides it!" also we Muslims don't invest so freely in stock market cause we are not allowed to invest in companies that do social evils like we don't generally invest in media companies cause some of these companies publish porn magazines and other hentai stuff that does social and moral degradation ,.. for the whole week in U.K I felt so locked I just wanted to get away and back home... although i liked cleanliness in U.K.

well coming to the main point...i think the general cause of all this is the term Jihad you may have seen in movies terrorist blabbing jihad jihad and jihad
well as a muslimwe regard them disgusting and misleading

the translation of Jihad and its meaning in english is



Jihad = Revolution! not terrorism or revenge!

As a muslim i tell you what i feel, we feel the reason of uprise of terrorism is american invasion of iraq and afghanistan (nothing against U.S!)

I feel that initialy to cope with rising demand for oil Americas top official especially the Bush govt started exploiting the oil rich nations, harassing them while misleading its own population that its freeing them from Taliban rule,

but things got out of hand as people themselves refused any foriegn involvement and
the war started resulting in mass bloodshed due to lack of communication!

also you all are aware of the unhuman behavior of some soldiers posted there
raping local girls and mercilessly harassing war criminals,

this has led to conversion of countless muslims rather people into bloodthirsty merciless terrorist and thats around when 9/11 happened leading to more outburst critism and further lack of understanding b/w sides

while in other countries including my home one opposition parties used the political
side of the issue to try to upturn the ruling parties and the things got ofout of hand
everywhere,

But going with the old saying that "who have caused the problem shall also fix it"
people our closly following the U.S Presidential Election, as some of us believe that Barrack Obama who has a modest and understanding side to him may fix the situation

I will end this with a note that atleast were we live we try to understand each other
and respect each others belief's and cultural backgrounds

and also i have nothing against anyone based on anything and this all entirely is just what i think!

i dont know who is right or wrong.

i can understand the war in afghanistan because Taliban was evil full stop.

but the iraq war i'm not sure about.

but i know 1 things or maybe 2 things is soo CRAZY it make me mad when i think about it, using kids to blow up people is just maddess, Filming people cutting other peoples heads off is maddess. yes i know the usa & uk soldiers have done some bad thing too.

i think the war is a waste of money.

exactly spook i agree that there's no 100% proof anything thats going on my real purpose is to make people aware to not let these things influence you interaction with each other and try to think atleast whats right and wrong and don't be like the guard i mentioned above

before any race,culture or religion we are Humans , so remember that!

The biggest terrorists are those who dont support the troops!

Now as far as Iraq (My sister is a gunner) I believe it is time to get out!

I will not give my views on this subject as they are very extreme.
But I do agree with Kilsek that all usa/british forces should be removed from muslim countries.

its not just muslim or us/uk.... its that no country shall intervene in someones else internal affairs,

and as humans we should not let such things influence us when we encounter / meet each other just like i do here

regardless of my culture I interact with all as a person first !

We have a bunch of discussions about this at benotdeceived(dot)net
The truth is not always what it seems....

Having re-read your original post I feel I must reply and I am wondering why an admin or mod hasn't locked this piece of racist propaganda.
You are spouting about how peaceful you are well how about the bodies of british servicemen dragged behind 4x4's after being beaten to death wheres your peace there.
The mutilation of american soldiers bodies yet again by the same peace loving individuals.
All of your rant is because you were searched at an airport, I have been searched many a time and think nothing of it as its standard security procedure.
I find your whole post offensive and racist to the extreme.

I never said that

1. its not racism , I also accept that thier have been some muslims who are in real terrorist, i know that as well , that is not the point the point is that they should be regarded as bad humans and not bad muslims,
I said at the end that the whole point here is that we should not let these things effect us and influence our judging of people around us,

I mean I'm not selecting who to react nicely to and who to not based on religion! I base that on their actions and i m trying to explin that if you ever met a muslim around you don't start doubting his intentions but let his action be the basis , if they are good to you you should be good to them and if they are cold to you ..ignore them!

I suggest you see the american movie Harald and Kumar: Escape from Guantama Bay to know what i mean !

Also
The Reason
for all this is the difference in culture and moral values, I'm not insultingor anything
but lets say , In America if a woman has se# with two or three ex-boyfriends,
its considered "ya well its so normal" but in our community a woman is socially insulted if she is found to have sex with a former boyfriend or anything, similarly its so normal in america that on the beachgirls roam in bikini's and sometimes even topless(while sunbathing) but here even on a beach at the most one or two girls do that ..... I don't want to insult anyone its just to explain ! I f I'm wrong somewhere please remind me!

I hate it when I'm at the airport and I see the security guard stop a middle eastern person because they are in fact from the middle east but letting everyone else go through. It makes me want to scream. I hate racist people they get on my last never. My step dad is from Jordan (for those of you who don't know it's in the middle east) and he would never hurt anyone. Also for those racist people out there who think, oh if you go over there you'll get shot or blown up that's a load of crock, my mom's been there plenty of times and she loved it. The way I see it is this, every race, has it's bad people, but that doesn't make the whole race bad. There's American terrorists as well as British, Middle Eastern, Asian, African, so on. Seriously think about it, if you were in a group playing a game and someone besides you dropped to ball, would you want everyone to point fingers and start blaming you just because you were in the group, I don't think so.

And by the by yes I know this topic is old but I just had to post.

Am i the only one who thinks this topic should get locked, because it can only start flame wars and striking of opinions ?

I dont even want to comment this, because even my comment could clash some sparks just for saying my honest opinion.

It is true it should be locked I just wanted to post my opinion.

As a former Officer in special forces there is information given that not very many individuals ever see or hear.

While in the forces I was privy to such kind of information. Those of you who aren't privy to this informaation never know that certain groups/forces are recruited by their own country to seek out a conclusion to a foriegn affair.

I can tell you that the good people of Afganistan and Iraq did in fact ask for the Allied help. So before you accuse us of interferring ask your country leaders why they asked for our help.

It is time for USA and England to stop being the worlds police.

NikiNovocaine wrote:I hate it when I'm at the airport and I see the security guard stop a middle eastern person because they are in fact from the middle east but letting everyone else go through. It makes me want to scream. I hate racist people they get on my last never. My step dad is from Jordan (for those of you who don't know it's in the middle east) and he would never hurt anyone. Also for those racist people out there who think, oh if you go over there you'll get shot or blown up that's a load of crock, my mom's been there plenty of times and she loved it. The way I see it is this, every race, has it's bad people, but that doesn't make the whole race bad. There's American terrorists as well as British, Middle Eastern, Asian, African, so on. Seriously think about it, if you were in a group playing a game and someone besides you dropped to ball, would you want everyone to point fingers and start blaming you just because you were in the group, I don't think so.

And by the by yes I know this topic is old but I just had to post.

Jordan is a very liberal middle eastern country also extremely westernised.
Try the same thing in the streets of tehran where they think its still the middle ages and see what happens.