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Post n°1

TOS warning

by bl4cks4b3r July 13th 2012, 6:26 pm

Dear "s4b3rstealth.forumotion.pro" forum administrator(s), it appears that your forum doesn't respect our Terms of service. Our service is free, so we are urged to only display legal content on the forums.

You have have until the 21-07-2012 to be in conformity. After this delay, we will have to delete your forum if it still isn't in conformity.

There is no way the having an ethical hacking website for pentesting is illegal. I can go on for days about how its widely accepted and there a numerous schools who offer ethical hacking lessons. NOT TO MENTION it is a legal practice in almost all countries. I expect this to be resolved immediately.

Last edited by Leeloo on July 20th 2012, 9:41 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Title more appropriate)

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Post n°2

Re: TOS warning

by Sir Chivas™ July 13th 2012, 6:29 pm

Hi,

Hello

Can you please provide me the URL of your forum. Thank you.

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Re: TOS warning

by bl4cks4b3r July 13th 2012, 6:31 pm

Sir Chivas wrote:Hi,

Can you please provide me the URL of your forum. Thank you.

S4b3rstealth.forumotion.pro

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Post n°4

Re: TOS warning

by Sir Chivas™ July 13th 2012, 6:33 pm

I'm not able to view the forum. Will you provide me an account or change the permission?

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Post n°5

Re: TOS warning

by bl4cks4b3r July 13th 2012, 6:38 pm

Sure, are you a moderator on here?

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Re: TOS warning

by Sanket July 13th 2012, 6:40 pm

https://www.forumotion.com/en/create-forum/terms-of-service.htm
If it confirms to this, you should not worry.

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Post n°7

Re: TOS warning

by bl4cks4b3r July 13th 2012, 6:42 pm

User is frankieedgar9 pw is guestpass

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Re: TOS warning

by Darren1 July 13th 2012, 7:01 pm

Hi,

Regarding hacking and release of items that are not yours, they are not permitted according to our terms of service, which also notes that hacking is also disallowed.

I want to know more about your issue, is possible.

When you say ethical hacking, do you mean: White hat hacking; being a hero, or a good guy? (IE: Mario in Mario games opposed to being Bowser, who'd be um black hat)

Can you please explain it, if I have missed the spot?

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Re: TOS warning

by bl4cks4b3r July 13th 2012, 7:06 pm

Sure no problem, the release of "items" are mine Smile

Smile

I created HackPack for backtrack version 5r2. And the other items offered are free open source linux programs that my friends have created (tdwl: ThA d0ctor). Yes this shows people how to penetrate when testing for LEGAL purposes, there have been people in the past who ask how to "hack facebook" and we simply tell them no way in hell. Its even in our rules that we do not, especially me personally, help of provide anyone with illegal hacking. We dont DOS or DDOS, do group hacking/hijacking ect. I am a multi certified whitehat pentester, and I started this forum (which has now grown to over 2000 users) to HELP pentesters, not hackers. This has caused us many angry trolls, and we dont care, we stick the ethics. We have been around for quite a while now, it would really be a shame to get rid of us; especially since the most recent troll has been trying to shut us down (becuase we banned him for violation [blackhat]), so I hope his clever trickery hasnt led to this.

Last edited by bl4cks4b3r on July 13th 2012, 7:12 pm; edited 1 time in total

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Re: TOS warning

by bl4cks4b3r July 13th 2012, 7:11 pm

I forgot to add, I have many corporate and mid-size private business IT specialists who visit us a lot to learn how to both penetrate and secure a system, including a leading administrator for a large security company in PA. This is an example of what I mean, this guy: http://s4b3rstealth.forumotion.pro/t496-dns-spoofing-arp-poisoning-outside-lan#2692 is just looking to find out if he cant pentest outside LAN on a lab he has setup (its what we test with--basic server or machine), I explained that without permission from a victim or test CPU/PC its illegal, and he reassured its on a lab demo. This is how we compose ourselves.

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Re: TOS warning

by Mike July 13th 2012, 7:31 pm

Forums about hacking is against Forumotion ToS... for whatever reason. If you dont remove it from your forum it will get removed regardless of your reason.

Also, you shouldn't double post Wink

Wink

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Post n°12

Re: TOS warning

by bl4cks4b3r July 13th 2012, 7:47 pm

Who makes the final decision about removal of a forum?

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Re: TOS warning

by bl4cks4b3r July 13th 2012, 7:48 pm

Drogba921 wrote:Forums about hacking is against Forumotion ToS... for whatever reason. If you dont remove it from your forum it will get removed regardless of your reason.

Also, you shouldn't double post

bl4cks4b3r wrote:Sure no problem, the release of "items" are mine I created HackPack for backtrack version 5r2. And the other items offered are free open source linux programs that my friends have created (tdwl: ThA d0ctor). Yes this shows people how to penetrate when testing for LEGAL purposes, there have been people in the past who ask how to "hack facebook" and we simply tell them no way in hell. Its even in our rules that we do not, especially me personally, help of provide anyone with illegal hacking. We dont DOS or DDOS, do group hacking/hijacking ect. I am a multi certified whitehat pentester, and I started this forum (which has now grown to over 2000 users) to HELP pentesters, not hackers. This has caused us many angry trolls, and we dont care, we stick the ethics. We have been around for quite a while now, it would really be a shame to get rid of us; especially since the most recent troll has been trying to shut us down (becuase we banned him for violation [blackhat]), so I hope his clever trickery hasnt led to this.

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Re: TOS warning

by SLGray July 13th 2012, 7:54 pm

bl4cks4b3r:

Please don't double/triple post. Your post need to be separated by 24 hours before bumping, replying or adding more information. Please use the edit button instead!

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Re: TOS warning

by Kill4Fun July 13th 2012, 7:59 pm

You Double Post Again...

bl4cks4b3r wrote:User is ************* pw is *********

i suggest you removing your username and pass from here.(why did you even shared it)

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Re: TOS warning

by bl4cks4b3r July 13th 2012, 8:25 pm

bl4cks4b3r wrote:User is ************* pw is *********

i suggest you removing your username and pass from here.(why did you even shared it)[/quote]

Thats not my username and password that is a guest account user and pass Smile

Smile

I wouldnt be that silly.

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Re: TOS warning

by Darren1 July 13th 2012, 8:43 pm

Hm, would this fall under the category of hacking?
I personally don't know too much about white hat hacking, I have heard of it though.

The person that makes the final decisions unfortunately, does not speak English, on French.

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Re: TOS warning

by bl4cks4b3r July 13th 2012, 9:20 pm

Darren1 wrote:Hm, would this fall under the category of hacking?
I personally don't know too much about white hat hacking, I have heard of it though.

The person that makes the final decisions unfortunately, does not speak English, on French.

I can translate it into any language, my main concern is that a very popular, growing, forum is going to be removed for a reason because someone has misinterpreted what it is. I just would like the chance to speak to that person, becuase in my opinion its completely unfair. There are also other forums using forumotion that actually ARE about hacking, (blackhat) not ethical hacking, and they arent being taken down.

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Re: TOS warning

by Sanket July 14th 2012, 5:15 am

Can you Please change the title of your topic, that is related to your question.

I will forward this to Leeloo to get some inputs.

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Re: TOS warning

by Shadow July 16th 2012, 9:47 am

Hello,

I guess that the content that goes against our TOS are the hack sections.
Don't know what you mean by legal hack either, but in your packs there are tools for DOS attacks from what I see and I don't really see how that can be a legal activity...

There's no possibility to negotiate or discuss with the litigation team. You just have to read our TOS and remove what isn't authorized, there's no trap.
You just have to wait for the end of the countdown if you have nothing to reproach yourself. Wink

Wink

Thank you

Smile

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Re: TOS warning

by bl4cks4b3r July 16th 2012, 6:10 pm

Leeloo wrote:Hello,

I guess that the content that goes against our TOS are the hack sections.
Don't know what you mean by legal hack either, but in your packs there are tools for DOS attacks from what I see and I don't really see how that can be a legal activity...

There's no possibility to negotiate or discuss with the litigation team. You just have to read our TOS and remove what isn't authorized, there's no trap.
You just have to wait for the end of the countdown if you have nothing to reproach yourself.

Thank you

We test server setups with LOIC (testing load balancers). If it can withstand up to 3 people trying to DDOS with LOIC it is then considered safe for residential (low) use.

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Re: TOS warning

by Shadow July 17th 2012, 10:42 am

Hello,

We will wait for the end of the countdown. If Online Guardian ban your forum, contest the decision and come in this topic to inform us.

Whatever the decision, please let us know Wink

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Thank you !

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Post n°23

Re: TOS warning

by bl4cks4b3r July 19th 2012, 6:29 pm

http://s4b3rstealth.forumotion.pro/t499-please-read

Please read comment number 2 by "Nathan1" This is the kind of stuff I am talking about. This is the pissed off blackhat that started the whole issue regarding our forum. This is a noob blackhat we banned, angry at the world, and deleting the forum would be putting ammo in his gun.

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Re: TOS warning

by bl4cks4b3r July 21st 2012, 4:47 pm

Solved. We greatly appreciate your support, and will not forget your kind understanding.

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Re: TOS warning

by SLGray July 21st 2012, 6:48 pm

Topic Solved & Locked

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