Export Database

Is it possible to export the database for the forum, so it can be hosted on its own site?


I ask due to the growth being experienced, and need to look into faster screen loads.

The system seems to be lagging out a bit lately.

The database isn't available for exporting.

Luky wrote:The database isn't available for exporting.

Why?

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I've already replied to the above posting saying it would only need a first year law student to pick big holes in this argument as in law it is in fact very flawed.

So let me assess this - does this mean that you are going to refuse to allow me to export information that i and my members have entered into our forum - information that belongs to us?

Id like an immediate response to this before our organisation continues to promote and use your services.


Especially considering that almost ALL your competitors offering an exportation service and normally for a nominal fee.

It is our intention to combine our membership data from all the forum providers we use into one central database for the new templar foundation and the online gamers association and to continue to use your services.

The law you are quoting is regarding 3rd party bodies that have nothing to do with the creation of the information and not the information owners, your services is basically a secure vessel to store that information gathered by the developers of that forum. You are the owners of the service vessel providers not the data and information stored within it.

This policy of yours sounds very suspect!

Ive sent a pm to calhiam about this - its a very important issue and needs dealing with. One of my co directors is even suggesting seeking legal advice.

Caihlem has currently some problems with his computer, so he might be unavailable for some time. I suggest to contact Typlo.

I can only say that you have agreed to the Terms of service when signing up:

Data and security
Everything is done to avoid any slowdown or unexpected downtime of the services, but it is not possible to guarantee these slowdowns, or to foresee any downtime. None network or server problem or any other breakdown can be covered under any warranty. None repayment can be considered for any break or stop of the services, damage or data loss. Several systems have been set up to ensure a security of the content. Thus, a backup of the whole data is done everyday. But for any reason, none individual backup or sql dump, database will be provided. Please do take good note that for any evoked reasons, no precise safeguard of a forum, dump, backup of the data will be provided. However, the administrator of the forum has at his disposal, a tool which allows him to use these backups in order to restore his board, such as it was at a previous date.

Sunny_D wrote:Caihlem has currently some problems with his computer, so he might be unavailable for some time. I suggest to contact Typlo.

I can only say that you have agreed to the Terms of service when signing up:

Data and security
Everything is done to avoid any slowdown or unexpected downtime of the services, but it is not possible to guarantee these slowdowns, or to foresee any downtime. None network or server problem or any other breakdown can be covered under any warranty. None repayment can be considered for any break or stop of the services, damage or data loss. Several systems have been set up to ensure a security of the content. Thus, a backup of the whole data is done everyday. But for any reason, none individual backup or sql dump, database will be provided. Please do take good note that for any evoked reasons, no precise safeguard of a forum, dump, backup of the data will be provided. However, the administrator of the forum has at his disposal, a tool which allows him to use these backups in order to restore his board, such as it was at a previous date.

I'm glad you understand it as how it is written is pure nonsense.
Perhaps forumotion could employ an english speaking person with legal knowledge to re do all of these wonders of badly translated french.
Take for instance this line "But for any reason, none individual backup or sql dump, database will be provided." grammatically means you will give anyone the sql dump of your whole server.
I would hate to see a class action brought against forumotion because of bad translation as it could cost them millions.

Sunny_D wrote:Caihlem has currently some problems with his computer, so he might be unavailable for some time. I suggest to contact Typlo.

I can only say that you have agreed to the Terms of service when signing up:

Data and security
Everything is done to avoid any slowdown or unexpected downtime of the services, but it is not possible to guarantee these slowdowns, or to foresee any downtime. None network or server problem or any other breakdown can be covered under any warranty. None repayment can be considered for any break or stop of the services, damage or data loss. Several systems have been set up to ensure a security of the content. Thus, a backup of the whole data is done everyday. But for any reason, none individual backup or sql dump, database will be provided. Please do take good note that for any evoked reasons, no precise safeguard of a forum, dump, backup of the data will be provided. However, the administrator of the forum has at his disposal, a tool which allows him to use these backups in order to restore his board, such as it was at a previous date.

Chailim has problems with his computer - now there is ian inspiration in confidence!! - if he is having trouble why is no one else picking up and dealing with his mail, come on guys your running a professional service here, that simply is not good enough

Now regarding those terms and conditions - you allow import of data into your site from other forum providers exported database - YOU DO NOT OWN OUR INFORMATION - And THAT ladies and gentleman IS THE LAW

Im not trying to be a bastard here, but withholding information and data that does not belong to you doesnt shed a good light on what is otherwise a fine service. NO ONE likes to be forced to take legal action to retrive informaiton - dont make my organisation do so.

i dont think any free forums like forumatiom will let you have any database, caihlem is only the admin of this forum

Actually they do - i have forums on several free providers and ALL but this one allow export of data.

For example FreeForums.org where i host www.templars.uk.tt charge you $30 usd for a database export.

tell me which one then

FreeForums.org as an example is one of our providers that allow export

well its in the rules when you made a forum with forumation that they wont give you and database,

spook wrote:well its in the rules when you made a forum with forumation that they wont give you and database,

You actually understand the rules as they are set out?

spook wrote:tell me which one then

jcink.com which uses ipb you have the facility in the acp.

spook wrote:well its in the rules when you made a forum with forumation that they wont give you and database,

Terms and conditions of a company do not override the law.

With all the problems, errors, chatbox bugs over the last 2 weeks and now downtime & a days missing posts, wouldn't it be fairer for Forumotion to release the databases of those who need them to move to a more reliable server as a good will gesture.

As their policy stands I couldn't possibly recommend these forums to anyone

I am sorry but we all must "wait out the storm" because they are not giving out the databases.

Drag~

this is quite an old problem of forumotion

Doesnt matter to us now, we going elsewhere now before this becomes a serious problem and we effectively give to much data to a third party and if they dont offer to provide us with "OUR" data we will go legal.

as said many times before, you do not have to stay with forumotion, but we are sorry that you had to go.

Forumotion does not provide the databases but they have many better features then every other forum provider which makes us better in the long run.

Drag~

dragonfir731 wrote:as said many times before, you do not have to stay with forumotion, but we are sorry that you had to go.

Forumotion does not provide the databases but they have many better features then every other forum provider which makes us better in the long run.

Drag~

are you a moderator on here or something? Because Ive seen a lot of your posts and you type like you are some type of Moderator

not going offtopic at all... I was just asking dragonfir731 a question. But if u feel the need to use your locking abilities, then by all means, do so!