Potential major issue with Servimg

Hi, I hope someone can help.

We had a few members leave our forum last year and go with one of our former moderators to his new forum. These people then deleted all their photos posted on our forum from Servimg, some also demanded that we remove all their threads (many thousands!) which we did. However we have now been contacted by an ex member accusing us of stealing their photos from the other forum to post on ours. Of course we haven't done this but we have looked into the issue and it seems to us that this member deleted some photos from Servimg that were posted on our site, she has since used Servimg on a different forum and it appears to have re-used old URLs therefore placing the new image on our forum in place of one of the deleted ones.

Our former moderator is now wrongly accusing us of copyright theft, deformation of character (sic) - he means defamation I presume - and is threatening us with legal action (yet again!). None of us have done anything (and our admin logs support this).

Advice would be welcome.

Well legally..there is nothing they can do.
They posted their pics on the forum freely....there isnt a court in the world that would take time to even register this.
Its childs play.....
Yes there is a certain amount of protection over the net...but really if you dont want to risk losing your pictures...dont post them. Easy as that.

Hi, I've had all this out with them previously and Forummotion themselves said I MUST delete their images. However, this isn't the issue - what I'm asking about is the problem with Servimg recycling URLs - it could be a big problem.

No-one have any info? My members are getting very irate about the FoxyBingo popups and I'm extremely concerned about the re-use of URL issue. With this ex-moderator whinging and whining about having his copyright infringed I need to be able to prove it's a Servimg problem/glitch so I can tell him to get knotted and take it up with Servimg.

You know what it's nothing to worry about.
I Would tell them they can try to do what ever they want and leave it at that.
And any other messages you receive i would just ignore.

as far as members/staff leaving your forum.OK well that's one thing by.lol
But now them asking you to delete all of there post.. lol your much to kind.
hey they posted them there to begin with and your talking thousands of post. I Mean it's up to you but i have never would have done that.

I Would have told them i would set there permissions to delete there post.
(if they did not have the option on) then if they want to delete there post to do it there selves. and after that Ban them.

dunno? the moral of the story it just sounds like some members being bitter and even a Lil immature.So i would not even sweat it or take any of it seriously.
after all your talking about images that were uploaded to a public image host to be posted and shared.

also remember it's your forum and you run the show not them. as long as your following tos and there's nothing wrong going on. let them complain blab,vent all they want. they are no longer there. what they do at other places is not your concern. let them get on there merry way.Why would you care anyway.and make sure you block everthing you can to make sure they will never return. you dont need people like that there stirring up and causing trouble.

i mean i dont know the whole situation?i would always be as polite and respectful to what ever the issue or incident was as i can. but things like this are just silly. ignore them and move on.

so once again i dont know the whole situation. that's just my thoughts on the matter.It's your place you run the show so put your foot down when you see fit:)

oh as far as the url being used again.
Well the only thing you or them can do is report the images.
Now if it's nothing offencive or anything that breaks there tos they probably wont do anything and let the images remain. but if your able to explain the situation they might take that in consideration and remove the images.
but it's not like they wont ever be uploaded again to another host or the same one?

Kirk, I appreciate your input however when the original question of deleting the ex-mods posts came up I was first of all told by forummotion that I didn't have to do it but I was then told by another forummotion staff member that I MUST do it and furthermore, if I didn't my forum would be closed. I complied because life's way too short and I wanted to move on.

Yes this person obviously has psychological issues - I've had two more people come to me and demand their posts be removed since I posted this message. One even emailed me to tell me that this other person told him to demand it even though he doesn't seem keen to do so - apparently many of my ex-members have been told they can't remain on my forum if they want to be on his as well. I'm now expecting more people to come and ask for their posts to be removed because this ex-mod is telling them to do so.

All this is by the by - I can't control what this ex-mod does or says about me or my forum HOWEVER when he starts calling me a copyright thief and threatening me with legal action over something Servimg has done then I need to clear this matter up pronto.

I have been under 12 months of continued harrassment from this man and his new forum since they left mine - the threats and unpleasantness continues and there seems very little I can do about it - Forummotion seem to buckle under his threats and lies also.

If anyone here can confirm to me the issue of Servimg's re-use of URLs then it would, at least, be a start to getting this creep off my back.

Well it seems theres two different answers from Forumotion.

QUOTE: I was first of all told by forummotion that I didn't have to do it but I was then told by another forummotion staff member that I MUST do it and furthermore, if I didn't my forum would be closed

I say, go to the head boss of Forumotion and get the real answer. Then work from there. From what I can see, theres nothing he can do legally. Its a free forum, he posted there in the first place.

If he asks to delete all topics with his photos, I suggest deleting the posts not the whole topics.

I've heard many problems with Servimg, especially the URL problem. Iwas just reading a topic on it now.

Hope this helps. All the best with the problem and hope all goes well.

The topics and photos were all deleted months ago. It's no longer an issue for me - if they want them removed I remove them - in fact I don't want content on my forum from these unpleasant individuals.

However, he's now kicking up a stink about me 'nicking photos' from his forum - which I haven't - it's this Servimg URL issue. My moderators have told him this by email (he won't communicate with me at all for some reason - must be scared I dunno) but he doesn't believe it and has been telling people that I'm a copyright thief and threatening legal action.

All I really want here is for one Forummotion Staff member to stand up and say 'Yes, Servimg does reuse URLs from deleted photos' so I could tell this ex-mod and then ignore all further contact. However, whilst he's whinging and shouting from the rooftops that I'm a copyright thief my reputation and business are going downhill rapidly.

Well I haven't researched too much into it and don't want to be bias or go against anyone but the general opinion (from what I've seen) is they do reuse URLs.

I say ignore him and tell your members to do the same. If he's still on your forum, Email and IP ban him.

I doubt he will SERIOUSLY take legal action. In my opinion its a waste of money on a lawyer and all the hard work over some photos. Probably just using that threat to get his on way. Kind of like parents telling kids they'll take you to the house for naughty children when your 4 years of age.

Yes I KNOW it's an idle threat - but it's a threat that he's making publicly and what I think no-one here quite understands is my forum is connected to my business. My reputation is in tatters because of the lies he has spread and my business is beginning to suffer.

This has been going on for a year, I've tried ignoring him but the stupid idiot won't go away. No matter what everyone else here says about taking no notice of him - his actions are adversely affecting my health and my business - I must sort this out!!!

Does anyone here know how I can get hold of Forummotion's Head Office address, telephone number or email addy please?

Oh and by the way, the last time I posted publicly up with a problem he came along and started flaming me here in the Help forums. I suspect he'll be along here sometime soon to continue his hate campaign...

He'll probably getted banned if he posts a personal attack on you with swearing etc

I think he needs to get over it.

LOL he definitely does need to 'get over it' - ain't that the truth!

Anyway, thank you for your input - much appreciated.

Forumotions main boss. Hmmmm. The support forum Staff may be able to help. Email would probably be like their own domain (staff@forumotion.com)


If not try www.forumotion.com

Best of luck

man i all i have to say it let some morons come on to my forum and try to tell me something like that. hey i'm a nice guy. but would never tolerate any such nonsense.

they want post removed tell them to do it. give them three days.
once they post something it's on them. you are not reasonable for removing members post just because there bitter and want to leave.now if it was something that breaks your rules or tos. sure then remove it and ban them.Are these people willing to give you documentation stating the own these so called images..NO Because there full of it.
and if they are copyright and they own them. hey there ones that posted it.
so now your supposed to be a mind reader on every image that's ever posted on your forum to know if it's copyrighted or not.. yea hello. with out proof you have no way of knowing this.And if it's an image that's not offense or pornographic then you have no reason to remove it. unless you just dont want it there.
ONCE AGAIN IT'S YOUR FORUM YOU RUN THE SHOW.DONT LET PEOPLE/FORMER STAFF MEMBERS COME IN AND PUSH YOU AROUND.STAND UP FOR YOUR SELF.. lol

tell them to go take a hike. cya would wanna a be ya.
let them complain all they want. and as far as forumotion flip flopping.
go over there heads contact them directly and get the answers from them. the bottom line is. if your following all tos. people can complain all they want and cant do nothing.

i would complain about them harassing you.
you go to the forumotion report an abuse tab and you explain your whole situation and the problems you are haveing. forget asking here. the staff here are to help people that are haveing problems with there forums as a tech things.not as legal advise. they are not lawyers and any major legal aspects you will have to take up with someone higher up from the abuse department.Plus the admins here see dumb things like this all the time. they do not have time to babysit. they see immature things like this between others forums time and time again.Take it up with the abuse people.They have other things to do here for people that need help. this is not the abuse forum it's a support forum

i think wednesday summed this up the best. Child's play.
but it's your place and you do what you think is right. but i would never let anyone try to push me around like that. over some stupid immature nonsense that has no signific so ever to it.I Would not even be responding to there people ban them
and anyone else that wants to leave let leave and ban them too.


Hell back in the day we would organize a forum raid for dumb things like this.. haha
oh i miss the fun days

Kirk, unfortunately all this started up a year ago - just weeks after my Dad died. To cope with the grief of losing a parent whilst at the same time have a whole load of people who you thought were friends treat you like crap (and by the way, this man is 56 years old - he's not a child) and spread rumours and lies about you everywhere has been extremely difficult to cope with.

I've wished this man good luck with his forum, I've said I bear no ill will - it makes no difference - he hates me and seems hellbent on making sure that everyone else hates me too and that no-one comes back to my forum.

I'm thinking about going to the police if Forummotion won't sort it out. It's harrassment and libel I have copies of PMs and emails he's sent people where he's told them that I read other member's private messages (which we all know can't be done). I also have messages where he's used the PM system on my board (before we banned him) to message my members, tell them I'm a witch and tell them to go over to his board. His signature on his own forum says 'Location: Far, far away from the wicked witch of Surrey' - I live in Surrey, it's embarrassing and professionally damaging. I wish he would just leave me alone.

Kirk, unfortunately all this started up a year ago

If this has been going on since a year, then there is really nothing potiental. Just ignore them- they can't do anything with you and your forum.

Well legally..there is nothing they can do.
They posted their pics on the forum freely....there isnt a court in the world that would take time to even register this.
Its childs play.....
Yes there is a certain amount of protection over the net...but really if you dont want to risk losing your pictures...dont post them. Easy as that.

This is highly true.


I'm sure Caihlem will come in here with some Article proofs.

Rok, SunnyD was involved a year ago when it all started up - he was the one that told me I MUST delete this member's messages. He joined my forum and told me through PMs that my Admin log would be checked at a set date to ensure I'd complied. So I removed them all as instructed. More people have since come back to my forum to request the same - one has admitted that he's been put under pressure by my former mod to request this.

However, all this is not the issue I'm currently concerned about - the issue now is the latest complaint by this vile man about photos he says I've recently stolen from his forum and put up on mine - I think Servimg reuses URLs, I know I've done nothing at all. I'm just trying to get through to him that there is an issue with Servimg and it is not right to publicly accuse me of Copyright theft. He doesn't and won't believe me or my moderators about Servimg reusing of URLs.

Do Servimg have their own site or contact details? Perhaps I'd be better trying to get confirmation directly from them rather than from Forummotion.

What a shame that this happened at that particular time.
I cant suggest too much more but if its affecting your busiess, a new forum could be drastic but may be a choice. It's been a year. Kinda makes no sense that something would be done NOW if he takes legal action - it's like some robbing your house and you only report it a year later - not much they can do.

Agreed with everyone else. Try Forumotion head staff or Servimg.

Best of luck and hope all goes well,
Im on your side,
Pip FTW!
JGP123

What a shame that this happened at that particular time.
I cant suggest too much more but if its affecting your busiess, a new forum could be drastic but may be a choice. It's been a year. Kinda makes no sense that something would be done NOW if he takes legal action - it's like some robbing your house and you only report it a year later - not much they can do.

Agreed with everyone else. Try Forumotion head staff or Servimg.

Best of luck and hope all goes well,
Im on your side,
Pip FTW!
JGP123

Just to let everyone know I've not received any help from the forummotion team despite having emailed their main office and subsequently emailing SunnyD here through this board (he was involved previously). My moderators are STILL receiving inflammatory and troublesome emails from this idiot.

I guess if forummotion don't want to help me all I can do is ignore the looney and hope (PRAY) that he'll get bored eventually and go away (however after 12 months it's very worrying that he hasn't done so yet!)