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Post by poopsicle567 November 23rd 2006, 4:34 am

First topic message reminder :

Recently i had a bot come onto my forum and make a advertisement. I moved it to my trash. I was wondering if there's a way to make that weird font with the wavy text to make sure your not a machine. I have seen this on other site's and i was wondering if this is possible on editboard? thx.


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Post by chrisoys December 4th 2006, 3:26 am

Help.

My forum experience this problem. Same people keep posting ads in my forum. I banned them but their register different name and post again & again. How can I stop this problem?

Many many thanks in advance!!! Crying or Very sad
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Post by marx123 December 4th 2006, 5:58 am

Dark Portal Forum Rules



To All whom pass through the Dark Portal Forum:

Rule No. 1 – No "Flaming"





You will not post any messages that harass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest. Personal attacks that are obviously between friends joking around are allowed up to a point.

This includes shouting in the forum with the use of totally UPPERCASE sentences in your topic, title, or post.


Rule No. 2 – No "Trolling"





You will not post any topic that disrupts the peace and harmony of this forum. Don't create meaningless threads with the sole purpose of starting a dispute. This includes messages in profiles and signatures.

Please… Do not shout in the forum with the use of totally UPPERCASE sentences in your topic, title, or post.


Rule No. 3 - No "Spamming"





You will not double post or cross-post the same message in multiple forums. You will not mass-PM or mass-email multiple members of this site the same message. You will not post for the sake of increasing your post count.

This also means making useless threads or posts that are meaningless. Such as making a thread titled "I just ate a pickle" and the message "And it was good."


Rule No. 4 - No "Offensive" Posts, Links or Images





You will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, hateful, threatening, racist, sexist, discriminatory, within or without sexually-orientation,or otherwise violative of any local or international copyright laws. This includes links in your signature, profile, bookmarks as well as posted images, photos and avatars. Staff will ultimately decide if something is appropriate or not.


This also includes NO discussion of the following:





Pornography (Pornography, in the case that we mention it, includes all textual and visual erotic material. Artistic nudity is not allowed)

Warez (or obtaining pay programs for free)

Free Servers For P2P Games

Roms (we don't care about the "24hr" legal thing. i highly doubt you're going to delete it within 24 hours. we don't want it here.)

Game Hacking

Anime Downloading

Illegal music downloading

Illegal file downloading of any sort

KSSN's







Keep matter from other forums or sites off of DarkPortal. So don't go posting problems with an Dark Portal member on your forum on our forum. Keep fights between members in PM's or Messengers.

Do not post any personal information on any member. This includes their IP, Address, and any other personal information




Rule No. 5 - No Self-Promotion





You will not post URL's --or any messages that solicit members, companies or self anywhere on this site that are primarily for the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, MLM, activity, or other entities that are intended for profit through Self-Promotion of which includes but not limited to affiliate codes of the Moreniche.com. (i.e. no self-promotions). This also includes pyramid schemes, gMail, etc.

This also includes using the forum as a tool for account trading, selling, and/or giving away accounts.


Rule No. 6 - Signature Restrictions





All signatures should not exceed the following size limits:
For images in signatures: 1 image up to 400 pixels wide, 300 pixels.
If you do want to have multiple images, the images can only add up to 400 pixels in height.


You may not display URL's for the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, MLM, activity, or other entities. Daek Portal staff members are exempt from this rule.

Ultimately the staff will decide if a signature breaks the rules or not. If it does you will be asked to remove it, or warned.


Rule No. 7 - PM Restrictions




Abuse of the PM system will definitely not be tolerated. Any abuse of the PM system including threats/flaming etc. will result in your user being warned and PM privilege being revoked. You have been warned.


Rule No. 8 - Language Restrictions




Please make all posts in English. This makes moderation easier and also keeps the forums more sociable. Keep any other language to PM's. Repeat offences will get 1 warning and may be permanently banned.


Rule No. 9 - Username Restrictions





Do not register names with excessive special characters, especially '' and '/', or any names which may be misleading. Examples of this include registering a name containing 'admin' or 'administrator'. You must not register names which may be confused with a member of the Onrpg Forum’s staff. Registering names that resemble a member of staff will result in the account being renamed or deleted without notice.

You may not register names for the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, MLM, activity, or other entities. Onrpg staff members are exempt from this rule.


Rule No. 10 – Avatar Restrictions





You will not display avatars that harass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest.

Other restrictions consist of:



Private body parts of a woman (vagina and breast's).


Actual private body parts of a man. This does not include images that have been doctored up in a comical sense.


Sexual acts of any gender or species or combination of genders or any combination of gender and species.

Vulgar in nature towards belligerence.






You may not display avatars for the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, MLM, activity, or other entities. Onrpg staff members are exempt from this rule.




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What is a warning, and how many can I get?
Warnings will now be handled differently. You will recieve a max of 3 warnings. After your 3rd warning you will be banned for a week. On return if you earn your 4th warning you will be permanetly banned.

What if I see a message posted that breaks a rule?
Please report these posts or threads to the administrator or moderator of the forum by submitting a Private Message, and the post or thread will be reviewed and action taken as soon as possible. Posting in a thread, or posting about, the breakage of the rule may result in warning. So just report it and leave it.

What is my responsibility as a member?
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Why have rules in the first place?
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thast my rules of the darkportal forum

since they see this..our forum can be strict..they havent been posting..
maybe theyre scared...
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Post by sirg0508 December 4th 2006, 9:04 am

I didn't realise bots read rules Rolling Eyes

chrisoys, there is very little that can be done but you have said that you have had them posting on your forum... that means you can get their IP by clicking on the IP box... go to the Admin section and enter that into the ban IP in Security.

There is now a word censor on site... enter all the words like porn etc. that these people are likely to use - if they add links this sometimes breaks the link.

Other than that, just keep removing them, banning them by IP when they post... make sure your forum is set up so that only registered users can post (if you don't they wont even need to sign up to post).

Then just wait for the technicians coming up with another way of stopping them.... in the meantime you may want to vote for my suggestion of banning by e-mail address so you can keep an eye on the pattern of e-mail sign ups from spammers...

https://help.forumotion.com/viewtopic.forum?t=1399

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Post by Tristou December 4th 2006, 5:47 pm

Hi,

today, Gautamas and Levi (an other technician) said there will be soon a feature to prevent bots from registering Smile
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Post by xaphania December 4th 2006, 5:49 pm

That's great, thankyou Smile
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Post by marx123 December 5th 2006, 5:16 am

gee maybe you guys can use my rules for awhile..

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Post by lockelymarkets December 11th 2006, 9:54 am

sinkgadr is a bot. uses email: sinkgadr@web.de, it has never posted (so can't trace IP) nor logged in since registration. googled "sinkgadr" and found it on many other forums:
Results 1 - 10 of about 96,300 for sinkgadr
all were registered on the same date.

edit:
researched "sinkgadr" a little more and found a post on another forum, the post was titled "have a nice day" and was full of wierd coding.

edit #2:
"sinkgadr" has been banned and deleted from group.
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Post by Cornelia December 11th 2006, 4:07 pm

What is this bot's registration date ?
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Post by lockelymarkets December 14th 2006, 6:42 am

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Post by Cornelia December 14th 2006, 8:24 am

The updates has been done on December 6, and a modification has been done in the registration process (the password confirmation must now be done after submitting the form).

Here on this English board, we have no more bot registration since these updates, so it should be the same thing on your side. So, delete the already registered ones and you won't be annoyed anymore by registered bots.
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Post by marx123 December 14th 2006, 9:13 am

hey guys ive google all the bots email address..i think they are really bots should i delete them or what?
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Post by Tristou December 14th 2006, 9:19 am

All the bots are not bad. For example, a googlebot reference your forum Smile
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Post by semeur December 17th 2006, 2:47 am

Please, I am an old man. What are bots, what are peeps, and what is double posting? I think I was banned from the French forum because I did "le double posting", but I don't know what it is !

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Post by Caihlem December 17th 2006, 9:14 am

Double posting is posting twice within a period less than 24 hours apart from each other
Bots are automated programs which used to register on forums and spam (for example; porn sites in the profile or a postwith pornl inks). In the case of the google bot, it's a program which examines the contents of your forum
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Post by semeur December 17th 2006, 12:32 pm

Thank you very much, although I still don't understand what bots were.

Nobody would ever guess that "double posting" means posting twice within a period less than 24 hours apart from each other, and certainly not expect to be banned from the forum for this ! I suppose I have just done it now, but I can't remember what time I asked the question and if I wait until what is probably 24 hours later I might not be available and would probably forget anyway, so I hope you will excuse me . I am not of your generation.

It might help people avoid being banned, as I was on the French forum, if you publish the time of each posting with a note "No more allowed for 24 hours". You can't expect everybody to have super memories and to be familiar with this jargon, which is only loosely based on English as we old folk know it.

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Post by Caihlem December 17th 2006, 12:35 pm

I must have miss-explained myslef...
Double posting is posting twice in a row.
For example:
Dojeta at 12:32
I need help

Dojeta et 12:45
Can't anybody help me? Sad

In this case, dojeta double posted seen as between each post there's a short lapse of time and no-one else posted meanwhile
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Post by semeur December 17th 2006, 12:36 pm

Sorry, I see now that you do publish a time, but it's wrong. The time is now 11.37 GMT here in England.

I hope you won't ban me for correcting what I wrote and for pointing this out.

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Post by Caihlem December 17th 2006, 12:37 pm

We wouldn't ban you for double posting ^^

It isn't concidered as an offense. Unless it occurs with repetition after numerous warnings and still...
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Post by semeur December 17th 2006, 12:54 pm

Caihlem wrote:I must have miss-explained myslef...
Double posting is posting twice in a row.
For example:
Dojeta at 12:32
I need help

Dojeta et 12:45
Can't anybody help me? Sad

In this case, dojeta double posted seen as between each post there's a short lapse of time and no-one else posted meanwhile

I see. It seems that this forum is only for young people who are familiar with the jargon. Moreover, the French forums are only for young people who speak and write French perfectly, although it is not necessary to write perfect English on the English forums. English people can be excluded from the French forums for errors which are similar to errors in English tolerated here.

I have taught English to French students at a language school in Oxford, and I am well qualified to compare the errors which people make in the two languages, for example using the past participle instead of the present participle (seen/seeing) or (probably) using the wrong tense (which used to register). These are exactly the kind of things which French people object to in French. Also, if a word is wrong, they comment in French "If you were not sure of the meaning of this word, you should have consulted a dico", which is not very helpful. Do you look up every word in a dictionary as you write ?

"Double-posting" was indeed one reason they banned me. That is where I heard the term. Cajun was banned simply for imperfect French. They say they have the right to ban anyone they please.

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Post by Caihlem December 17th 2006, 1:02 pm

Well, unfortuanetly, for you, they kind of do have he right.... pale

Meanwhile, this forum or most forums in general aren't meant for the 'younger' generations. We allow mistakes because no-one's perfect and well, eventhough this is a english support forum, we have many nationalities (which is great Very Happy) and therefore can't expect a perfet english from everyone.
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Post by semeur December 17th 2006, 6:00 pm

Why do they expect perfect French then ? It's not very logical.

Semeur

P.S. It surely can't be because English is an international language but French is not an international language.
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Post by Caihlem December 17th 2006, 6:54 pm

French people are (as a genera), very proud of their language and very closed minded on the international community.

Recently, the french shcools were rated one of the poorest for english levels in Europe. The French minister of education decided to give schools a fund to help progress. My headmaster used the funds in the sporting of our school -_-*
(The worst being when I specificately asked for more and adapted english lessons, he said: Why? French is the language the most spoken on the planet rambo)
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Post by semeur December 17th 2006, 7:42 pm

"French people are (as a general rule ), very proud of their language and very closed minded on the international community.
Recently, French schools were rated one of the poorest for English levels in Europe. "

I'm glad I didn't say this !!!

I thought Chinese was the most spoken language on the planet. Which reminds me, the English written by Chinese people often is really very very difficult to understand, because they have no idea of Indo-European grammar at all, but we have to tolerate this and try to understand them. I have written before elsewhere (and got into trounble for it) that if French wants to have any hope at all of being taken seriously as a great international language again, French people must be tolerant of foreigners making mistakes. But they sometmes are not. That is why poor Cajun, of genuine Acadian Louisianan ancestry, whose father and uncles fought for France, has been banned from contacting his "cousins" on a collector's forum in French, and he and I both think this is very unfair. But the French just say "We have the right to do that." This is a very French attitude, "on a le droit". There are other considerations.
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Post by cajunsr1 December 17th 2006, 8:43 pm

bonjour mes amis,
my french cousins should not be so arrogant to think their languange is the only one in the world that is spoken. if they lived in tampa where i have lived for the past 40 years, they would find themselves outnumbered by the latinos living here. spanish is the number one language behind english that is spoken here. only in lousiana was french spoken and it is now in danger of becoming an extinct species as the spanish is also spoken there as well. our latin cousins have become a large voice in america. i have no problem with this as my great uncle was mexican. and i am glad to extend my hand in friendship to them. we all live in a complex world with many languages. it is impossible to learn them all. so we must learn to live with one another in peace. i am a war veteran of vietnam as was many of our french cousins from dien bien phu years before. and my son an iraq war veteran. both of us despise war. and now we live in peace as civilians. my point to you, the younger generation, is to learn from our mistakes and to curb your hatreds or prejudices if you have them and replace it with understanding and knowlege. only this will allow us to progress with our civilizations no matter what language succeeds to profess our thoughts. we are on just one little planet and it ain't gonna last if we stay at odds with one another, just food for thought from an old man. take care youngins.
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Post by Wiegraf December 18th 2006, 12:12 am

bonjour semeur et cajunsr1 Smile

Euhh... I can't seem to understand why you posted this in a topic concerning bots Confused
If you have a problem with the french support forum, feel free to express yourself on the french support forum, for what happens there does not affect this forum's life Wink

To return to this topic's purpose, the bots' problem seems to be solved, so if no one reports a new problem, I might lock this topic in a day or two Smile

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Post by semeur December 18th 2006, 1:16 am

You need to read my posting called by you "Yesterday at 8:47 pm " (although this was not the actual time) which starts "Please, I am an old man. What are bots", and read on from there. Then you will see how it developed. If you read it all carefully, you will see that we have brought this up on the French forum but they have an insular and disciplinarian attitude, not to say xenophobic and dictatorial. (NOT to say that !). That is what we are complaining about. As this website as a whole is based in the USA and as we both speak English better than French, this seems the best place to comlain about how the French are handling it. It is all too easy to "lock" things. This is what they do. We have both been locked out. Caihlem's last four postings have got nothing to do with bots either. Are you proposing to ban him from these forums as well ?

Semeur (without consulting Cajun whose attitude may be different)
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Post by Wiegraf December 18th 2006, 1:33 am

Editboard was created after "Forumactif" Smile

I'm not talking about banning anyone, I'm just saying that this topic is about bots Wink
If you want to talk about the french staff's attitude, I recommend you speak directly with them, by re-registering on the french forum and explainig them the situation by PM, because we (thir staff and ours) decided that what happens there must not affect things here, for the 2 forums are different Smile
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Post by semeur December 18th 2006, 1:40 am

"Editboard was created after 'Forumactif' "

Sorry, I have no idea what this really means, or what the significance of it is.

Re-regisering with a new ID is one of the things I have been severely criticised for on one of your French forums. Doing it again would certainly only make things worse !!! I HAVE been banned, and so has Cajun, and if we come back again there, we will be banned again instantly, because our French is not good enough for them.

Your French wing seems to have got thoroughly out of hand.

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Post by Caihlem December 18th 2006, 9:50 am

EditBoard is the name of the english domain of the forum system as a whole. It was branched out of ForumActif which is the french version.

I'v read on the French version. You've been banned because of certain things you said and definately not your level in the french language. Leelow for example was our juridical consultant here Wink

I lock this topic because it is now way out of what it's purpose is and to avoid it continuing like this
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