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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on September 16th 2013, 5:40 pm

What are forumotion plans to sort out our search engine rankings?

my is still falling, please don't say its only my forum becasue i know it not it's the forumotion servers, my website is growing my Facebook is growing but my forum is falling and it all down o the virus problem we had an few months bad.

i just want to know forumotion plans to fix this problem or i will take me forum elsewhere!

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Solved Re: Search engine problem

Post by S-t-e-v-e- on September 17th 2013, 10:09 pm

if the godfather doesn't know how to fix this problem then he going have to pay someone to do it, becasue this will kill forumotion if he wait for much longer...

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Solved Re: Search engine problem

Post by Guest on September 17th 2013, 11:32 pm

Well Google picks up your site automatically. I find so anyway. 

If you have changed your URL it can take longer,as your URL is new, but it still gets picked up by the major search engines.

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on September 17th 2013, 11:43 pm

Yes but the ranking is falling if a size of my forum is struggling how the heck are new member forums are going become big like my.

before the virus problem i was getting 3500 or over 4000 hits a day, i was getting like 15,000 impression a day, i was getting 40 od new member per day

now I am only struggling to get 1600 hits, i'm struggling to get 4,500 impressions and only getting 5/6 new members a day.

This need fixing it's not how i run things becasue my website is grow by the day my Facebook page is getting over 150 new likes a day, i'm doing everything right this is a forumotion problems if the godfather care about his business he going have to look into this more before it to late.

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Post by runawayhorses on September 18th 2013, 1:52 am

If you're willing to put some money into it like you suggested that you might, you could consider going to "Google AdWords" and create an account and pay to have your forum put in search results. You can have your forum ads placed at the top of the pages if you want. Basically the more money you put into it the higher your ranking will be and the frequently in which it shows in results. Just a thought and workaround for you, but quite frankly I don't see a way forumotion can rebuild your search result ranking considering google runs it and not forumotion.

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on September 18th 2013, 2:37 am

@runawayhorses wrote:If you're willing to put some money into it like you suggested that you might, you could consider going to "Google AdWords" and create an account and pay to have your forum put in search results. You can have your forum ads placed at the top of the pages if you want. Basically the more money you put into it the higher your ranking will be and the frequently in which it shows in results. Just a thought and workaround for you, but quite frankly I don't see a way forumotion can rebuild your search result ranking considering google runs it and not forumotion.

Good luck.
this wont work becasue forumotion server at the moment are dirty so it doesn't matter how much money you throw at your forum it wont change an thing.

i got nearly 62,000 people on the facebook page, i'm getting 3000 hits on my website but my hit on the forum which was 4/5 time bigger then website before the virus problem on here then the website which was growing day by day is now struggling to get 1600 hits and it not getting better.

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Solved Re: Search engine problem

Post by Guest on September 18th 2013, 2:52 am

You could have a custom domain, that is yourforum.com instead on your forum.forumotion.com. search engines tend to index quicker if you have your own domain. Forumotion has this option to either buy your domain though them or host on one you already own. As Runawayhorses said it's up to Google if they want to index a site not FM.

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on September 18th 2013, 3:37 am

Andrea Borman wrote:You could have a custom domain, that is yourforum.com instead on your forum.forumotion.com. search engines tend to index quicker if you have your own domain. Forumotion has this option to either buy your domain though them or host on one you already own. As Runawayhorses said it's up to Google if they want to index a site not FM.
what are you talking about? you have lost me

this problem is becasue of the virus problem forumotion had an couple months back.... which forumotion need to sort out... if the godafather doesn't know how to fix this then he will need to pay someone to fix becasue if he doesn't do something every forumotion forum will end up having 2/3 members online and admin will move to rivals or make their own forum which i am planing to do. i could use my own domain and everything will be back to normal in 2/3 weeks.

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Solved Re: Search engine problem

Post by SLGray on September 18th 2013, 3:50 am

Because search engines are the ones you index our forums, Forumotion can only remove the issue that cause the forums to be blocked in the first place.  It is up to the search engines then to checkout the former block forums which will add more searches without warnings.


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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on September 18th 2013, 4:36 am

if forumotion dont move server or chnage then nothing is going change, if forumotion dont think out of the box on this they going have a slow death... i will tell you this now it will happen!!

my forum was an very poplaur and very likey one of forumotion best english boards (not saying it was the top forum but i would say top 40 easy). the godfather & admins of big forum should be worried... i spend 7 years geting my forum where it is i'm very mad this has happen!!!

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Post by Guest on September 18th 2013, 5:35 pm

@S-t-e-v-e- wrote:if forumotion dont move server or chnage then nothing is going change, if forumotion dont think out of the box on this they going have a slow death... i will tell you this now it will happen!!

my forum was an very poplaur and very likey one of forumotion best english boards (not saying it was the top forum but i would say top 40 easy). the godfather & admins of big forum should be worried... i spend 7 years geting my forum where it is i'm very mad this has happen!!!
Steve, if you are not happy with Forumotion you can always find somewhere else to host your forum on. But that doesn't mean you won't have the same problems there. As SL Gray said, It's Google that do the indexing, not Forumotion.

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Solved Re: Search engine problem

Post by RadioHead on September 18th 2013, 7:08 pm

@S-t-e-v-e- wrote:if forumotion dont move server or chnage then nothing is going change
Just so you know, ALL FM servers are regularly updated, this year alone has seen 5 server changes, and only 1 caused a downtime that was unexpected.

This is a problem that Buttercup needs to address, and put it to the attention of TGF, aka 'Lead Dev'

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Post by runawayhorses on September 18th 2013, 7:36 pm

@S-t-e-v-e- wrote:this wont work becasue forumotion server at the moment are dirty so it doesn't matter how much money you throw at your forum it wont change an thing.
When you signup with Google AdWords you have the option to speak with someone on the phone if you have questions about your rankings or any other questions you might have about your account. So if it "won't work" and your rankings do not improve you can call them and they will tell you why. At least then you can confirm and find out exactly why your rankings has fallen so dramatically. You will have someone from google looking into the situation for you.

I've used Google AdWords for my sites before, and I've spoken with the representatives, they are very helpful and will answer all your questions.

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on September 18th 2013, 8:09 pm

Andrea Borman wrote:Steve, if you are not happy with Forumotion you can always find somewhere else to host your forum on. But that doesn't mean you won't have the same problems there. As SL Gray said, It's Google that do the indexing, not Forumotion.
If i was running the server this would of never happen, if forumotion refund me on the money i have paid to remove links and add i would upgrade my own hosting so it could handle an forum... i'm no newbies on forum and website i know pretty a lot that why my forum has over 15,000 members over 500,000 posts my website is ranked the best for what i promote, i only used forumotion to save me a bit of money BUT if i have to i can move else where without na problem Smile




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@S-t-e-v-e- wrote:this wont work becasue forumotion server at the moment are dirty so it doesn't matter how much money you throw at your forum it wont change an thing.
When you signup with Google AdWords you have the option to speak with someone on the phone if you have questions about your rankings or any other questions you might have about your account. So if it "won't work" and your rankings do not improve you can call them and they will tell you why. At least then you can confirm and find out exactly why your rankings has fallen so dramatically. You will have someone from google looking into the situation for you.

I've used Google AdWords for my sites before, and I've spoken with the representatives, they are very helpful and will answer all your questions.
adword wont fix anything becasue forumotion server has an dirty name becasue of the virus problem that why my forum & everyones traffic is falling that why if anybody who make an forum on forumotion they be lucky to get any where my traffic. this is an fact. forumotion needs to move hosting or get new servers far and far away the ones they using now.


i dont why i bothering i will just be ignored again by the godfather  it only took him 3 months to sort out the virus problem i reported it be probably take him 6 months to sort this problem out Mad

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Post by Leviosa on September 18th 2013, 8:51 pm

Hello Steve,

Your thinking about search engine is normal. And I do understand you would like to improve the ranking of your forum.
However, neither Forumotion nor The Godfather is responsible for bad rankings. Some of our forums are on the top of Google ranking thanks to a great web marketing strategy (focused keys words, good targeting…).

Concerning the virus problem, we have already communicated about it. You can read the following topic: http://help.forumotion.com/t125416p60-only-topic-subdomain-that-been-black-listed#849881 .

There is no link with our own servers. Of course, I am available to answer your question about this.
If you want our help, please make a list of all questions with your Forum URL.
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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on September 18th 2013, 8:55 pm

Buttercup wrote:Hello Steve,

Your thinking about search engine is normal. And I do understand you would like to improve the ranking of your forum.
However, neither Forumotion nor The Godfather is responsible for bad rankings. Some of our forums are on the top of Google ranking thanks to a great web marketing strategy (focused keys words, good targeting…).

Concerning the virus problem, we have already communicated about it. You can read the following topic: http://help.forumotion.com/t125416p60-only-topic-subdomain-that-been-black-listed#849881 .

There is no link with our own servers. Of course, I am available to answer your question about this.
If you want our help, please make a list of all questions with your Forum URL.
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the bad ranking only happen when forumotion allow some idiot to post virus links on just about ever sub domian you have got..

my forum was growing very nicely for the past 6/7 years till now, this is not my problem this is an forumotino problem if my falling the rest are also which mean less money forumotion is making

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Post by Leviosa on September 19th 2013, 2:34 pm

@S-t-e-v-e- wrote:
Buttercup wrote:Hello Steve,

Your thinking about search engine is normal. And I do understand you would like to improve the ranking of your forum.
However, neither Forumotion nor The Godfather is responsible for bad rankings. Some of our forums are on the top of Google ranking thanks to a great web marketing strategy (focused keys words, good targeting…).

Concerning the virus problem, we have already communicated about it. You can read the following topic: http://help.forumotion.com/t125416p60-only-topic-subdomain-that-been-black-listed#849881 .

There is no link with our own servers. Of course, I am available to answer your question about this.
If you want our help, please make a list of all questions with your Forum URL.
Best regards

Buttercup
the bad ranking only happen when forumotion allow some idiot to post virus links on just about ever sub domian you have got..

my forum was growing very nicely for the past 6/7 years till now, this is not my problem this is an forumotino problem if my falling the rest are also which mean less money forumotion is making
Hello,

Thanks for giving us the URL of your forum. We will check all technical problems.

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on September 19th 2013, 9:23 pm

http://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/

i did have an spike in my impressions for a couple of day then went again like you can see below.



before the virus problem my impressions was well over 15,000 and you can see i'm struggling to get 5,000 now, my forum link is everywhere on the internet i spend the last 6/7 years promoting it becasue i wont an huge community which i was getting better the problems

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Solved Search engine problem

Post by Leviosa on September 19th 2013, 10:29 pm

@S-t-e-v-e- wrote:http://staffy-bull-terrier.niceboard.com/

i did have an spike in my impressions for a couple of day then went again like you can see below.



before the virus problem my impressions was well over 15,000 and you can see i'm struggling to get 5,000 now, my forum link is everywhere on the internet i spend the last 6/7 years promoting it becasue i wont an huge community which i was getting better the problems
Hello Steve,

Thanks for those information. We are going to verify your forum and we will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on September 20th 2013, 1:26 am

the spikes was 19th to the 21st august so if there was any change to the server or any update was made that that time please redo them

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Post by Leviosa on September 20th 2013, 3:20 pm









Hello,
 
As you can see on pictures, we made all technical analyses to check ranking problems, virus problems and all... Results are very clear. There is no link between the ranking of your forum and any FM technical or virus problems. We also check your forum activity. Your activity is stable these last three months.
Your sending screenshot shows exceptional peaks for two weeks but not a general trend.
 
We recommend you to read the following topic https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2604824?hl=en.
It explains Google' virus and penalties on your forum. You should be connected on Webmaster tools to have that information.
Otherwise, you should work on your Keywords and make an analysis.
 
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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on September 20th 2013, 6:29 pm

is the godfather not worrying about this?

I'm not new to building to big community forum i spend nearly 1/3 of my life doing it, my forum was getting 15,000 impressions a day, i was getting 4,000 of hits there nothing else i can do, if my forum has fall so far then the rest of forumotion forum has also.

OK i'm not getting anywhere again i told you about this issue i cant do anymore lets hope forumotion is still around in the future.

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Post by runawayhorses on September 20th 2013, 8:02 pm

If you're not happy with your rankings you can do something about, pay for "Google AdWords" like I suggested earlier and force your site to the top of search results, they won't refuse you if you pay. There are porn sites at the top of search results for cryin out loud, if they can do it so can you.

Cryin about it isn't what site owners do, they work the problem and get the results they want, and sometimes you gotta pay.

I said all I'm going to say on the matter I've already expressed what I think you should do, so I'm moving on to try and help answer other peoples questions. I do wish you luck with your forum and sites, and I understand your frustrations.

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Post by S-t-e-v-e- on September 20th 2013, 11:54 pm

@runawayhorses wrote:If you're not happy with your rankings you can do something about, pay for "Google AdWords" like I suggested earlier and force your site to the top of search results, they won't refuse you if you pay. There are porn sites at the top of search results for cryin out loud, if they can do it so can you.

Cryin about it isn't what site owners do, they work the problem and get the results they want, and sometimes you gotta pay.

I said all I'm going to say on the matter I've already expressed what I think you should do, so I'm moving on to try and help answer other peoples questions. I do wish you luck with your forum and sites, and I understand your frustrations.
How many time do i have to say adword DOESN'T get you good ranks it get you members 2 totally different things, i will tell you this one more time i'm not newbie to forum i know how to promote them to top rankings... why do you think i have over 15,000 plus members on my forum? do you think i dream them up or something?

clearly they dont like something on forumotion!! that is an FACT read up you will see if your ranking drop it's becasue there something they dont like.!!

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