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Photobucket update

Post by Shadow on July 10th 2017, 3:40 pm

First topic message reminder :

PhotoBucket changed its terms of use



Dear users,

We inform you that the hosting images service PhotoBucket, which is one of the biggest hosting service on the internet and used by a lot of Forumotion users, changed its terms of use and you have now to pay to use it.

Since the beginning of July 2017, Photobucket added fees to display the images it hosts on third-party hosting. Indeed, this service allows only the users that have a premium account on their service to see the pictures hosted there. A premium account is around 400$ / year ! affraid

Consequence : more than 100 millions of internet users discovered a notification that asked them to buy a premium account to be able to use the images hosted on Photobucket or just to see them on their own website.

Indeed, the images hosted on Photobucket are only displayed for the premium account and are not shown on external websites they are on, replaced by an image that invites the users to suscribe to a premium account.

See exemple:

To avoid any problem on Forumotion themes and forums, we are going to replace all the PhotoBucket images that are on Forumotion by an empty image.

We'll do it on the Wednesday 12 of July 2017. As a consequence, we invite all the administrators that have PhotoBucket images on their forum to change their host by hosting those images on another host, such as Servimg which stays free.

Thank you for your understanding,

Best Reguards,
The Forumotion staff king




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Re: Photobucket update

Post by APE on July 17th 2017, 12:00 pm

Hello @VoIP,

Forumotion is a free forum host and we don't make a lot of money,
Most of our income comes from ad's on your forums and now and then we get a little from you the members if you pay for credits to use on removing ad's but this is not a lot of money.

To add our own pictures and images host on our servers will only slow things down and take up much needed space.

This is why we have out side hosts to help us with this.
Photobuket has NEVER been one of our out side hosts it's just members have used them before.

We pay for the following hosts servimg and Imgur of their service and they give us just what we need.

I do understand what your saying that if servimg or Imgur do some work on their servers it can get some down time but this is not very often and we don't see it a problem.

We can't say that that system will be up 100% as we can't even say we can be up 100% no one can.

Even if we was to host things our end we can not guarantee we could be running them 100% we also have to do updates and change things on our servers so if we had this it could go down just like outside hosts.

Also using Big Data / cloud based systems will cost to much to keep and there is still limits they have and to tell you the truth we just don't make that sort of money to have all our forums using that sort of thing.

You have to remember we are a FREE forum host not a paid service.
And this post was only made to worn members of what was going on not really anything else.



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Re: Photobucket update

Post by VoIP on July 18th 2017, 3:41 am

@APE wrote:Hello @VoIP,

Forumotion is a free forum host and we don't make a lot of money,
Most of our income comes from ad's on your forums and now and then we get a little from you the members if you pay for credits to use on removing ad's but this is not a lot of money.

To add our own pictures and images host on our servers will only slow things down and take up much needed space.

This is why we have out side hosts to help us with this.
Photobuket has NEVER been one of our out side hosts it's just members have used them before.

We pay for the following hosts servimg and Imgur of their service and they give us just what we need.

I do understand what your saying that if servimg or Imgur do some work on their servers it can get some down time but this is not very often and we don't see it a problem.

We can't say that that system will be up 100% as we can't even say we can be up 100% no one can.

Even if we was to host things our end we can not guarantee we could be running them 100% we also have to do updates and change things on our servers so if we had this it could go down just like outside hosts.

Also using Big Data / cloud based systems will cost to much to keep and there is still limits they have and to tell you the truth we just don't make that sort of money to have all our forums using that sort of thing.

You have to remember we are a FREE forum host not a paid service.
And this post was only made to worn members of what was going on not really anything else.

Thanks for Response @Ape but the following is a list for you.

I am not understanding this "We pay for the following hosts servimg and Imgur of their service and they give us just what we need." if you are paying for the usuage why isn't this inccorporated into the forum? Even if the core images (such as the theme) was being hosted, we can't expect more than 1gb of data, I'd estimiate about 300mb or so.

"Even if we was to host things our end we can not guarantee we could be running them 100% we also have to do updates and change things on our servers so if we had this it could go down just like outside hosts." -- I never stated 100% I realize updates are a neccesties for a web server, but what I am stating to that is, if the forum software is providing the support for the software, why not the digtial accessbility to the images. We are talking "7" kb for a jpeg of 100px x 100px.

You have to remember we are a FREE forum host not a paid service.
I understand its a free service, I used to use the forum provider for up to 5 years before leaving the forumotion scene.

And this post was only made to worn members of what was going on not really anything else.

Yes, and a warning needs a resolution. My resolution is to just have forumotion backup the theme, again we are looking at under 300mb of image data for the theme. Avatars, are at least important its the critical parts of the forum such as the imagery. Else we might as well be running a Lynx browser on the page, its just text and css colors. Again to the resolution, forumotion can provide a throttled dropbox.

I may not understand the purpose of forumotion deciding to be using third party websites, but to answer this: To add our own pictures and images host on our servers will only slow things down and take up much needed space.

A resolution is to disable non active websites, and clear out the database. Problem solved. I noticed there are far too many forumotion websites that are outdated with lack of activity and if there is no activity between 2+ years, safe to say remove it.


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Re: Photobucket update

Post by SLGray on July 18th 2017, 3:54 am

Forums are removed for inactivity, but there are too many to really keep track of. Remember this is a worldwide community.


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Re: Photobucket update

Post by brandon_g on July 18th 2017, 12:39 pm

Well forumotion has used servimg for quite a few years now. I don't think there are any plans to change this anytime soon.


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Re: Photobucket update

Post by APE on July 18th 2017, 6:42 pm

we are just going to go round round on this one @VoIP
Lets just say that FM are happy to do it this way and it's how it's going to be.

we have unlimited space on servimg for really little cost as far as i can tell, FM would have looked in to this before that is why we took this way as a better way.




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Re: Photobucket update

Post by Swedegfx on July 19th 2017, 3:31 pm

Hello,

This topic/info was posted yesterday July 18th, 6.42 PM in admin panel and I had not time to read it until now the 19th.
I have a graphic forum and we are creating a lot of signature tags etc. Some still have the paid Photobucket account and their links were still good.
Came in to the forum and saw all posts with PB-links are emptied and replaced with http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif.

Where is the "button" where I can allow the Photobucket links to show up?
I could not find anything about it in admin panel.

My moderator is MIA due to a surgery and she had made up 50 different pages which are going to be posted every day until the 31st of July. Now all are not showing the images so need to be updated but I do not have the images and I can't even copy a pb-link.

It would have been great if you had sent this to the admin panel before yesterday as I am not in here every day.

I know this is not the support page but thought you might have an idea to solve this or give a hint where I can click to allow Photobucket links.

I know many other taggers on graphic forums are now crying out loud.

Thank you for reading!
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Re: Photobucket update

Post by VoIP on July 20th 2017, 3:33 am

@APE wrote:we are just going to go round round on this one @VoIP
Lets just say that FM are happy to do it this way and it's how it's going to be.

we have unlimited space on servimg for really little cost as far as i can tell, FM would have looked in to this before that is why we took this way as a better way.


Then you answered my question. As long as forumotion isn't "Piggy backriding" (making users use third party websites ) then that satisfies my issue.
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Re: Photobucket update

Post by Beckea on July 20th 2017, 7:27 pm

Wolfuryo wrote:400$ is a lot just for hosting a few images. Good thing that i've got my own server for my photos Smile
Totally agree. I am going to close my account at Photobucket this week and say good bye. I looked at the plans and the one that would be needed was the $399 (400) so yeah not going to use them anymore.
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Re: Photobucket update

Post by cromar on July 21st 2017, 2:15 am

Just to clarify that those who had any kind of active paid subscription with Photobucket in June this year (like $30 for me) will continue to have 3rd party hosting privilege until the end of 2018, providing they maintain their subscription, of course, but without having to pay the $400.

That's why I panicked when I saw that all my images were blank today and that the links were pointing to illiweb? Thought I had been hacked or something! Obviously I hadn't read about the upcoming update! I changed the option in the Admin panel, as indicated, and everything is back to normal, thank god!

Is there a way to get notified of major changes via email or something? Can I enroll somewhere? Thank you for letting me know.
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Re: Photobucket update

Post by SLGray on July 21st 2017, 2:52 am

Usually the announcements here will appear in your administration panel (homepage).


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Re: Photobucket update

Post by APE on July 21st 2017, 11:31 am

There is one other way you can get Emails about updates and that is to watch the update forum by clicking the link here Start watching forum then set your profile settings to Email you.

Note: only downfall is if you are watching other threads / posts / forums then you will get a Email for all of them also.



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