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Post by Zeta on August 1st 2019, 8:35 am

I saw the topic about the PWA and looked at it in my forum setting and I can't seem to find any options for disabling it. Topic'it at least has options to not activate it and not have it show up on the forum. Am I missing something somewhere or is there an option for it in a different section? Is there a javascript I could use?
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Post by jucarese on August 1st 2019, 2:25 pm

Hello from the AP you can not deactivate the PWA, it is simple to leave the forum and clean the cookies, after entering you will ask again if you want the notifications or do not give it to no and they will not come out anymore.
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Post by brandon_g on August 1st 2019, 6:59 pm

Hello,

Yes you can not deactivate it, but your users do not have use it if they don't want to.

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Post by Zeta on August 2nd 2019, 3:14 am

@jucarese wrote:Hello from the AP you can not deactivate the PWA, it is simple to leave the forum and clean the cookies, after entering you will ask again if you want the notifications or do not give it to no and they will not come out anymore.
@brandon_g wrote:Hello,

Yes you can not deactivate it, but your users do not have use it if they don't want to.

-Beandon
I'd prefer if I could stop it from sending an invitation at all so it's not an option for anybody on my forum to use it. Is there maybe a javascript that would prevent it? The topic about it says it's connected to the toolbar, so would deactivating the toolbar get rid of the option for the PWA too? It also apparently needs https, so if I just don't switch the forum over from http to https does that prevent it from becoming an option?
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Post by SLGray on August 2nd 2019, 3:19 am

If you deactivate the toolbar, the notifications will then not work at all.


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Post by Zeta on August 2nd 2019, 4:10 am

@SLGray wrote:If you deactivate the toolbar, the notifications will then not work at all.
But it will definitely prevent the PWA then? No invitations to install it or anything like that? My forum will be safe from it?
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Post by SLGray on August 2nd 2019, 4:31 am

The forum's PWA notifications are directly linked to its ToolBar notifications and its activation. They can be controlled from the management of ToolBar notifications in each user's profile.

I really do not think your members will be upset by this.  All major sites (Youtube and Twitter for examples) are now using this technology.


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Post by Zeta on August 2nd 2019, 7:57 am

@SLGray wrote:The forum's PWA notifications are directly linked to its ToolBar notifications and its activation. They can be controlled from the management of ToolBar notifications in each user's profile.

I really do not think your members will be upset by this.  All major sites (Youtube and Twitter for examples) are now using this technology.
I can't tell if that is a "yes" or a "no" to my question asking if deactivating the toolbar for the entire forum will definitely prevent the PWA from being an option and prevent it from sending its invitations and install requests, etc.
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Post by Occultist on August 2nd 2019, 4:16 pm

You can go to the overall_header mobile template and remove
Code:
{META}
. This should disable pwa completely, but will also remove some other meta tags. I'm also pretty sure that using the desktop version on mobile will also disable pwa.
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Post by brandon_g on August 3rd 2019, 12:57 am

If you turn the toolbar off, it will prevent the notification options and pop ups from working for sure. I am not sure if it prevents the pwa feature from working altogether though.


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Post by Zeta on August 3rd 2019, 2:38 am

Sentis wrote:You can go to the overall_header mobile template and remove
Code:
{META}
. This should disable pwa completely, but will also remove some other meta tags. I'm also pretty sure that using the desktop version on mobile will also disable pwa.
That sounds promising, but the "some other meta tags" concerns me a little. Would the meta tags I've added to keep robots away no longer work?
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Post by Occultist on August 3rd 2019, 6:53 pm

On my forum, removing {META} removes the following meta tags:language, description, keywords, robots(present by default, I haven't added one), tags for rss feeds(not really used anymore), apple-touch icons(I'm not sure what's with these), manifest(which enables pwa), msapplication-titleColor and Image(I think these have to do with the windows live tiles and they will default to using other meta tags).

The tags that you add in the admin panel are injected though {META}. The good thing is that you can manually add them to the templates so that they will work after deleting {META}. If you want, you can post the tags that you added here and I'll explain what you need to do.

Honestly, there were much better ways for forumotion to add this feature, and a bunch of other features as well.
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Post by Storyteller of Wonderland on August 3rd 2019, 7:50 pm

@Zeta
@Sentis

Hello!

Do you really think that removing meta tags is an adequate operation? I do not recommend doing this, as in the future this may disrupt the functioning of your forum.

I really don’t understand what you want to disable. The translator incomprehensibly translates your words. Sorry. But if we are talking about any pop-ups, you can disable them through the browser or in the personal settings of users.

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Post by Occultist on August 3rd 2019, 7:54 pm

@'Storyteller of Wonderland', I'm pretty sure @Zeta didn't use a translator. Either way, you may want to give this a read:https://help.forumotion.com/t157771-progressive-web-app-pwa-available-on-forumotion-forums#1094428
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Post by Zeta on August 4th 2019, 11:00 am

Sentis wrote:On my forum, removing {META} removes the following meta tags:language, description, keywords, robots(present by default, I haven't added one), tags for rss feeds(not really used anymore), apple-touch icons(I'm not sure what's with these), manifest(which enables pwa), msapplication-titleColor and Image(I think these have to do with the windows live tiles and they will default to using other meta tags).

The tags that you add in the admin panel are injected though {META}. The good thing is that you can manually add them to the templates so that they will work after deleting {META}. If you want, you can post the tags that you added here and I'll explain what you need to do.

Honestly, there were much better ways for forumotion to add this feature, and a bunch of other features as well.
The only meta tags I've added are noindex, nofollow.
There probably were better ways to do add it, but really I'd be a lot happier if they just gave us the option to disable it entirely.
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Post by Zeta on August 8th 2019, 4:30 am

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Post by SLGray on August 8th 2019, 5:11 am

Are you exactly getting complaints from your members?  I really do not see this as an issue.


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Post by Occultist on August 8th 2019, 5:35 pm

I would imagine that the nofollow, noindex tags that you added have the name robots and nofollow, respectively noindex being the content. If that is true, you can replace {META} in the template with:
Code:
<meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow>
It will remove PWA and keep your custom tags.

I personally think that this whole pwa thing is a bit unnecessary and forced and will most likely disable it on my forum. It may have some benefits, but it's something that I can't fully control and I don't like that.
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Post by Zeta on August 10th 2019, 1:42 am

@Occultist wrote:I would imagine that the nofollow, noindex tags that you added have the name robots and nofollow, respectively noindex being the content. If that is true, you can replace {META} in the template with:
Code:
<meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow>
It will remove PWA and keep your custom tags.

I personally think that this whole pwa thing is a bit unnecessary and forced and will most likely disable it on my forum. It may have some benefits, but it's something that I can't fully control and I don't like that.
I agree completely. Though I feel the same about a lot of some of the recent additions.
Thank you for your help.
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Post by skouliki on August 15th 2019, 8:20 am


hello

is this solved?
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Post by skouliki on August 15th 2019, 8:20 am


hello

is this solved?
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Post by Zeta on August 17th 2019, 11:15 am

@skouliki wrote:
hello

is this solved?
As far as I can tell, for now. So I suppose so.
I'd have to check but I think that might make this my first solved thread actually.
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Post by skouliki on August 17th 2019, 12:13 pm

ok if it is complete please mark it as solved
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