Forumactif Edge - A Free Modern and Responsive Forum Theme
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Forumactif Edge - A Free Modern and Responsive Forum Theme
First topic message reminder :
Hello everyone,
Since November 2015 I've been working on developing a new "forum version" for Forumotion forums that's modern and responsive. Today I've recently published the production release of this software and would like to share it with all of you who are looking for a more modern design that's also mobile-friendly.
Forumactif Edge features :
Forumactif Edge will constantly evolve because it's open source and managed by the community. That means we'll take feedback, suggestions, and reports from the community -- that's right, your voice can shape the future of this project ! If you'd like to install Forumactif Edge on your Forumotion forum, please see the wiki link below which includes detailed instructions on how to install the theme along with additional information on Forumactif Edge that's constantly changing.
Installation Tutorial : https://github.com/SethClydesdale/forumactif-edge/wiki/Installing
Not ready to install yet ? No problem ! Take a look around, check out the FAQ and previews below, or visit our website link below to learn more about what Forumactif Edge has to offer !
Website : https://sethclydesdale.github.io/forumactif-edge/
Do you have any questions or concerns about Forumactif Edge ? If so, feel free to check out our FAQ page or leave a reply below with your question ! We're always ready to answer your questions !
Mobile Preview : Forumactif Edge is responsive, so that means it's mobile-friendly ! Don't believe it ? Check out Google's Mobile-Friendly test !
Feature Preview : Forumactif Edge comes with a theme changer that allows your members to browse in the color of their choice, and to give your forum maximum space it docks widgets to a side panel !
If you have any questions or feedback, feel free to leave them below. I hope all of you enjoy this theme as much as I have making it.
Hello everyone,
Since November 2015 I've been working on developing a new "forum version" for Forumotion forums that's modern and responsive. Today I've recently published the production release of this software and would like to share it with all of you who are looking for a more modern design that's also mobile-friendly.
Forumactif Edge features :
- Modern mobile-friendly design.
- Smart automated control panel that assists you with installation and other tasks.
- Dynamic theme selector so your members can browse in the color they prefer.
- Side panels for widgets and quick navigation so your forum has maximum space and accessibility.
- Automatic color coding of posts based on usergroup affiliation.
- Built in counter for reputation votes.
- and more...
Forumactif Edge will constantly evolve because it's open source and managed by the community. That means we'll take feedback, suggestions, and reports from the community -- that's right, your voice can shape the future of this project ! If you'd like to install Forumactif Edge on your Forumotion forum, please see the wiki link below which includes detailed instructions on how to install the theme along with additional information on Forumactif Edge that's constantly changing.
Installation Tutorial : https://github.com/SethClydesdale/forumactif-edge/wiki/Installing
Not ready to install yet ? No problem ! Take a look around, check out the FAQ and previews below, or visit our website link below to learn more about what Forumactif Edge has to offer !
Website : https://sethclydesdale.github.io/forumactif-edge/
FAQ
Do you have any questions or concerns about Forumactif Edge ? If so, feel free to check out our FAQ page or leave a reply below with your question ! We're always ready to answer your questions !
Previews
Mobile Preview : Forumactif Edge is responsive, so that means it's mobile-friendly ! Don't believe it ? Check out Google's Mobile-Friendly test !
Feature Preview : Forumactif Edge comes with a theme changer that allows your members to browse in the color of their choice, and to give your forum maximum space it docks widgets to a side panel !
Full Page Screenshots
Click any of the links below to see a full page screen shot of Forumactif Edge in action.Desktop | Mobile |
Homepage | Homepage (Mobile) |
Topics | Topics (Mobile) |
Forumactif Edge Control Panel | N/A |
If you have any questions or feedback, feel free to leave them below. I hope all of you enjoy this theme as much as I have making it.
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Re: Forumactif Edge - A Free Modern and Responsive Forum Theme
Hi Ange Tuteur..
When I did the update yesterday I noticed that all my Custom Legend buttons were messed up again..now I know what happened the last time..it was because of the updates..I had to take them out..
I just got to thinking what I may have to do is take them out then do the updates then put them back in..it may be a pain in the rear..I don't know..
Have a great weekend and Happy Easter..
When I did the update yesterday I noticed that all my Custom Legend buttons were messed up again..now I know what happened the last time..it was because of the updates..I had to take them out..
I just got to thinking what I may have to do is take them out then do the updates then put them back in..it may be a pain in the rear..I don't know..
Have a great weekend and Happy Easter..
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Re: Forumactif Edge - A Free Modern and Responsive Forum Theme
I love this theme, thank you. It was surprisingly easy to install and customise,and seems to work perfectly. I had to uninstall modernbb due to too many issues not being addressed.
I just have one question: Can you change the header background to white, without the category section changing to white as well? The text is white in the category headers, so its unreadable if I change it to white (its better for my logo). I cant find anywhere to change the category text color either. (ive set the other text colors quite easily)
Any ideas?
I just have one question: Can you change the header background to white, without the category section changing to white as well? The text is white in the category headers, so its unreadable if I change it to white (its better for my logo). I cant find anywhere to change the category text color either. (ive set the other text colors quite easily)
Any ideas?
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Dang it..I tried to take a picture of what tillytiger and I would like but it's not working this time..
I'm going to use my test site to show you..
my test site
Ok where it says Forum in white..we would like to change those text colors..but they won't change..if we put a light grey there the text colors stay white..
I went through the CSS Stylesheet to see if there was a way of just changing the color in there but couldn't find anything..
Ange Tuteur is there a way of making a color code to change the text on that and on the Navigation bar seems to be the same way..
Also while I am working in the FAE Control Panel..in the color section..the site should be there so I can preview it while I work..but within a few seconds it disappears and I have to reload it..over and over..
Thank you Ange Tuteur for all your help..
I'm going to use my test site to show you..
my test site
Ok where it says Forum in white..we would like to change those text colors..but they won't change..if we put a light grey there the text colors stay white..
I went through the CSS Stylesheet to see if there was a way of just changing the color in there but couldn't find anything..
Ange Tuteur is there a way of making a color code to change the text on that and on the Navigation bar seems to be the same way..
Also while I am working in the FAE Control Panel..in the color section..the site should be there so I can preview it while I work..but within a few seconds it disappears and I have to reload it..over and over..
Thank you Ange Tuteur for all your help..
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Broomhilda wrote:Dang it..I tried to take a picture of what tillytiger and I would like but it's not working this time..
I'm going to use my test site to show you..
my test site
Ok where it says Forum in white..we would like to change those text colors..but they won't change..if we put a light grey there the text colors stay white..
I went through the CSS Stylesheet to see if there was a way of just changing the color in there but couldn't find anything..
Ange Tuteur is there a way of making a color code to change the text on that and on the Navigation bar seems to be the same way..
Also while I am working in the FAE Control Panel..in the color section..the site should be there so I can preview it while I work..but within a few seconds it disappears and I have to reload it..over and over..
Thank you Ange Tuteur for all your help..
- Code:
.forum-category .title {
color: YOUR COLOR;
}
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That worked..thank you Gray..
We need it for everything..like the Navigation Bar, and at the very top with the Search, Forumotion name, Share, Admin, Notification, Legend, Who's online, even the toggle's..all of that as well..see where everything is white in the texts all those..
Sorry I wasn't more clear..
We need it for everything..like the Navigation Bar, and at the very top with the Search, Forumotion name, Share, Admin, Notification, Legend, Who's online, even the toggle's..all of that as well..see where everything is white in the texts all those..
Sorry I wasn't more clear..
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Re: Forumactif Edge - A Free Modern and Responsive Forum Theme
Thank you Sam for clarifying. If it is possible, i want to change the header background (and nothing else changing) to white?
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That's quite odd, because the update that was sent out only updated JavaScript codes management, so it shouldn't have touched your CSS.. Do you remember if there was anything peculiar about the CSS after updating ?Broomhilda wrote:Hi Ange Tuteur..
When I did the update yesterday I noticed that all my Custom Legend buttons were messed up again..now I know what happened the last time..it was because of the updates..I had to take them out..
I just got to thinking what I may have to do is take them out then do the updates then put them back in..it may be a pain in the rear..I don't know..
Have a great weekend and Happy Easter..
Thanks, I hope you enjoyed both the weekend and Easter as well.
I'm glad you're enjoying Forumactif Edge !tillytiger99 wrote:I love this theme, thank you. It was surprisingly easy to install and customise,and seems to work perfectly. I had to uninstall modernbb due to too many issues not being addressed.
I just have one question: Can you change the header background to white, without the category section changing to white as well? The text is white in the category headers, so its unreadable if I change it to white (its better for my logo). I cant find anywhere to change the category text color either. (ive set the other text colors quite easily)
Any ideas?
Yes it should be possible, though currently this is something that can only be achieved via CSS. ( I'll add this to my todo list for future updates though ) You can use the CSS below for changing any text that is currently white.
- Code:
/* titles */
.color-primary, .forumline tbody .catHead, .h3, .inner h1.page-title, .mainmenu:after, .table1 thead th, .title, h2.u {
color:#000;
}
/* navbar links */
#navbar a.mainmenu {
color:#000;
}
/* buttons */
#profile-advanced-add a, a.button1, a.button2, body div.sceditor-dropdown .button, button.button2, input.button, input.button1, input.button2, input[type=file], input[type=button], input[type=submit], input[type=reset] {
color:#000 !important;
}
/* footer links */
#footer_end, #footer_end a, #page-footer, #page-footer a {
color:#000;
}
/* search text */
form.search-form input.search-keywords {
color:#000;
}
/* toolbar */
body #fa_search #fa_textarea, #fa_share a:after, a#fa_hide:after, a#fa_icon:after, a#fa_magnifier:after, a#fa_show:after, body #fa_icon, body #fa_right #fa_menu #fa_welcome, body #fa_right #fa_notifications, body #fa_right a.rightHeaderLink, body #fa_right.notification #fa_menu #fa_welcome, body #fa_share_text, body #fa_toolbar #fa_service, body #fa_welcome {
color:#000;
}
You don't need to copy all of these ; you can copy specific portions if needed. The comments I added should help you identify what does what. However, if you want to use all of these, I recommend combining them into one rule so it's easier to manage :
- Code:
.color-primary, .forumline tbody .catHead, .h3, .inner h1.page-title, .mainmenu:after, .table1 thead th, .title, h2.u, #navbar a.mainmenu, #profile-advanced-add a, a.button1, a.button2, body div.sceditor-dropdown .button, button.button2, input.button, input.button1, input.button2, input[type=file], input[type=button], input[type=submit], input[type=reset], #footer_end, #footer_end a, #page-footer, #page-footer a, form.search-form input.search-keywords, body #fa_search #fa_textarea, #fa_share a:after, a#fa_hide:after, a#fa_icon:after, a#fa_magnifier:after, a#fa_show:after, body #fa_icon, body #fa_right #fa_menu #fa_welcome, body #fa_right #fa_notifications, body #fa_right a.rightHeaderLink, body #fa_right.notification #fa_menu #fa_welcome, body #fa_share_text, body #fa_toolbar #fa_service, body #fa_welcome {
color:#000;
}
If you need anymore help let me know.
Re: Forumactif Edge - A Free Modern and Responsive Forum Theme
Thank you for getting back to me. That changes the title colour. Is there a way to just change the header background to white? Im happy with the look of the forum I have, but just want a white header background, without it changing the category colour as well.
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Thank you so much Ange Tuteur for your help..and hope you had a wonderful Easter..
I went into all my scripts both the Javascript and the CSS and nothing was changed nothing out of order everything was the way it was supposed to be..
I just took out all the custom buttons/icons..with the next update I will first look to see what is there and make sure everything is correct then update and see if it changes anything..
I'm glad tilly is getting everything worked out..I can't wait to see the theme on her site..it's going to be exciting..
I went into all my scripts both the Javascript and the CSS and nothing was changed nothing out of order everything was the way it was supposed to be..
I just took out all the custom buttons/icons..with the next update I will first look to see what is there and make sure everything is correct then update and see if it changes anything..
I'm glad tilly is getting everything worked out..I can't wait to see the theme on her site..it's going to be exciting..
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Re: Forumactif Edge - A Free Modern and Responsive Forum Theme
Yes there is, go to Admin Panel > Display > Colors, and add the following CSS rule to your stylesheet.tillytiger99 wrote:Thank you for getting back to me. That changes the title colour. Is there a way to just change the header background to white? Im happy with the look of the forum I have, but just want a white header background, without it changing the category colour as well.
- Code:
#page-header {
color:#333;
background:#FFF;
}
Ah, okay. Whenever the next update is released let me know if there's any issues and I'll look into it.Broomhilda wrote:Thank you so much Ange Tuteur for your help..and hope you had a wonderful Easter..
I went into all my scripts both the Javascript and the CSS and nothing was changed nothing out of order everything was the way it was supposed to be..
I just took out all the custom buttons/icons..with the next update I will first look to see what is there and make sure everything is correct then update and see if it changes anything..
I'm glad tilly is getting everything worked out..I can't wait to see the theme on her site..it's going to be exciting..
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Ok will do and thank you again..Ange Tuteur
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Thank you so much! But now im being stupid...how do I add that? Just want to be sure its in the right place
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Just sent you a pm on how to do that tilly..lol..your not stupid you are just having a brain fart
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No, Broomhilda, I was being stupid..... Thank you for pointing me in the right direction....
Thank you Ange, that has worked perfectly. I'm very happy now.
Thank you Ange, that has worked perfectly. I'm very happy now.
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Ange Tuteur What are these codes do/for ??? And where do you put them..in the CSS sorry..
.color-primary, .forumline tbody .catHead, .h3, .inner h1.page-title, .mainmenu:after, .table1 thead th, .title, h2.u, #navbar a.mainmenu, #profile-advanced-add a, a.button1, a.button2, body div.sceditor-dropdown .button, button.button2, input.button, input.button1, input.button2, input[type=file], input[type=button], input[type=submit], input[type=reset], #footer_end, #footer_end a, #page-footer, #page-footer a, form.search-form input.search-keywords, body #fa_search #fa_textarea, #fa_share a:after, a#fa_hide:after, a#fa_icon:after, a#fa_magnifier:after, a#fa_show:after, body #fa_icon, body #fa_right #fa_menu #fa_welcome, body #fa_right #fa_notifications, body #fa_right a.rightHeaderLink, body #fa_right.notification #fa_menu #fa_welcome, body #fa_share_text, body #fa_toolbar #fa_service, body #fa_welcome {
color:#000;
}
.color-primary, .forumline tbody .catHead, .h3, .inner h1.page-title, .mainmenu:after, .table1 thead th, .title, h2.u, #navbar a.mainmenu, #profile-advanced-add a, a.button1, a.button2, body div.sceditor-dropdown .button, button.button2, input.button, input.button1, input.button2, input[type=file], input[type=button], input[type=submit], input[type=reset], #footer_end, #footer_end a, #page-footer, #page-footer a, form.search-form input.search-keywords, body #fa_search #fa_textarea, #fa_share a:after, a#fa_hide:after, a#fa_icon:after, a#fa_magnifier:after, a#fa_show:after, body #fa_icon, body #fa_right #fa_menu #fa_welcome, body #fa_right #fa_notifications, body #fa_right a.rightHeaderLink, body #fa_right.notification #fa_menu #fa_welcome, body #fa_share_text, body #fa_toolbar #fa_service, body #fa_welcome {
color:#000;
}
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Re: Forumactif Edge - A Free Modern and Responsive Forum Theme
Hi, I have installed the theme on my established forum, and all has gone really well. The images in the posts all have a resize box, even though they are within the widths and size in forum settings (800 x800)
They look very small. Is there a way to change this? Our forum is very image focused so I would like to see larger images.
Thank you!
They look very small. Is there a way to change this? Our forum is very image focused so I would like to see larger images.
Thank you!
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Hi, does anyone have an answer to this, or have I posted in the wrong place? Could you let me know please. Thank you
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hello
you can always check the FM Design forum , that is Ange Tuteur's forum, you can find help with Edge or wait until Ange logs on here
you can always check the FM Design forum , that is Ange Tuteur's forum, you can find help with Edge or wait until Ange logs on here
Re: Forumactif Edge - A Free Modern and Responsive Forum Theme
Ach... wie. Wer hat an der Uhr gedreht? Danke schoen fuer die Blumen... Vielen Dank! Wunderbar...
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Hey, sorry for the late replies ; I've been occupied working on another project. As skouliki mentioned, I'm more likely to check FM Design as that's were I handle most requests regarding FAE. I still visit this forum from time to time though.
find : ( line 652 )
Under this comment should be two options :
If you need anymore help let me know.
This CSS rule mainly changes the font color for all titles / fonts that are currently white -- generally any font that's white. Yes, it goes into your CSS stylesheet.Broomhilda wrote:Ange Tuteur What are these codes do/for ??? And where do you put them..in the CSS sorry..
.color-primary, .forumline tbody .catHead, .h3, .inner h1.page-title, .mainmenu:after, .table1 thead th, .title, h2.u, #navbar a.mainmenu, #profile-advanced-add a, a.button1, a.button2, body div.sceditor-dropdown .button, button.button2, input.button, input.button1, input.button2, input[type=file], input[type=button], input[type=submit], input[type=reset], #footer_end, #footer_end a, #page-footer, #page-footer a, form.search-form input.search-keywords, body #fa_search #fa_textarea, #fa_share a:after, a#fa_hide:after, a#fa_icon:after, a#fa_magnifier:after, a#fa_show:after, body #fa_icon, body #fa_right #fa_menu #fa_welcome, body #fa_right #fa_notifications, body #fa_right a.rightHeaderLink, body #fa_right.notification #fa_menu #fa_welcome, body #fa_share_text, body #fa_toolbar #fa_service, body #fa_welcome {
color:#000;
}
Forumactif Edge has an automatic image resizer installed, but it can be disabled. Go to Admin Panel > Modules > JS Codes management > ALL.JStillytiger99 wrote:Hi, I have installed the theme on my established forum, and all has gone really well. The images in the posts all have a resize box, even though they are within the widths and size in forum settings (800 x800)
They look very small. Is there a way to change this? Our forum is very image focused so I would like to see larger images.
Thank you!
find : ( line 652 )
- Code:
/* -- 06. image resizer -- */
Under this comment should be two options :
- Code:
max_width : 400, // maximum image width (400px)
max_height : 250, // maximum image height (250px)
If you need anymore help let me know.
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Samantha you know this is the English support forum.SWS wrote:Ach... wie. Wer hat an der Uhr gedreht? Danke schoen fuer die Blumen... Vielen Dank! Wunderbar...
Please speak in English, as this is an English support forum. If you need support in another language, please look at the widget to the right that says ''Official Support Forums.''
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Thank you Ange Tuteur..and it's ok..I figured it was real life that was keeping you from here lol..
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Thank you. I visited FM and there was a tutorial which explained it to me. It looks perfect now. I will post there if I have any further issues.
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No problem !
Release link : https://github.com/SethClydesdale/forumactif-edge/releases/tag/v1.2.4
Help
Don't know how to update Forumactif Edge ? Click the following link to find out how !
https://github.com/SethClydesdale/forumactif-edge/wiki/Checking-for-updates
Update v1.2.4
Forumactif Edge version 1.2.4 is now available ! This patch updates translations and fixes a small bug with the theme selector and theme manager in the FAE CP.- Updated Arabic translation. (Thanks to amghidh and Michael_vx)
- Updated Italian translation. (Thanks to Niko!, Teo!, and @MattiaDes)
- Updated Romanian translation (Thanks to SSYT)
- Fixed theme selector not coloring visited links.
- Fixed window scrolling when adding / moving a new theme in plugin management.
Release link : https://github.com/SethClydesdale/forumactif-edge/releases/tag/v1.2.4
Help
Don't know how to update Forumactif Edge ? Click the following link to find out how !
https://github.com/SethClydesdale/forumactif-edge/wiki/Checking-for-updates
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Update v1.2.5
Forumactif Edge version 1.2.5 is now available ! This patch fixes a few bugs, namely the copy code button leaving its selection even after the contents were copied.- Added pre-installation options to the FAE Control Panel.
- Upgraded image resources to HTTPS ; this will currently only affect new installations and theme changes.
- Fixed Control Panel not appearing when a JavaScript error occurred in JS Codes Management.
- Fixed Copy Code button leaving selection after contents were copied.
Release link : https://github.com/SethClydesdale/forumactif-edge/releases/tag/v1.2.5
Help
Don't know how to update Forumactif Edge ? Click the following link to find out how !
https://github.com/SethClydesdale/forumactif-edge/wiki/Checking-for-updates
Translations
As some of you are already aware, the wiki for Forumactif Edge contains the majority of information about installing and using FAE. Up until this point it has only been available in English, but that will soon change with your help ! I've recently completed work on a new tool that will make collaborating on the wiki easier and will allow us to easily create and share translations. Open the spoiler below for more information on translating the wiki.- Wiki Translations:
Translating the Wiki
To translate the wiki we will be using the Wiki Source Editor for Github. This will allow you to see and edit the markdown used for each page, and share your changes through URLs. Click the link below to open up the page list for FAE's wiki.
https://sethclydesdale.github.io/wiki-source-editor/?get=github.com%2Fsethclydesdale%2Fforumactif-edge
You should see this list once the wiki has been loaded. To get a feel for how this works, click on the Home page to open up the editor and begin editing it. Once you're finished translating and making your changes click the Copy URL button to copy the URL to your changes. This URL will link directly to your translation/changes, so they can be reviewed and added to the wiki. This tool is still experimental, so if you want to take extra caution you can back up your translation in a text file on your computer or share it in a topic.
See the list below for information on what pages should be translated.- Home
- Checking for updates
- Colors
- Contributing
Contributors- Enabling the Mobile Version
- FAE Control Panel Guide
- Features
- Frequently Asked Questions
- General Settings
- Installing
- Maintenance
- Plugin Management
- Reinstalling
Select Language- Support and Discussion
- Theme Management
- Themes
- Translating
- Uninstalling
- _Sidebar
- _Footer
Pages that are red aren't recommended for translation, because their contents change regularly or don't require translation due to minimal texts. If we make changes to any existing pages we'll let you know in this topic.
For more information about using Wiki Source Editor, please see :Submitting your Translations
Submitting your translations follows a similar process to our other translations. When you're ready to submit your translation click here to open a new topic and include the following information. If a topic is already created for the language you're submitting, simply leave a reply in that topic.
Topic Title : Forumactif Edge Wiki - {LANGUAGE} Translation
*Replace {LANGUAGE} with the name of the language the translation is meant for. e.g. French, Italian, German
Message : In your message you can include the following.- Link(s) to your translations (click for example)
- The translated source code of the page (optional)
- Any other information you want to add (optional)
If you have any questions about the translation process, feel free to let us know below.Current Translations
You can view our current translations for the wiki here :
https://github.com/SethClydesdale/forumactif-edge/wiki/Select-Language- Home
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Thanks @Ange Tuteur, excellent update.
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Once again BOWS to the master. Excellent work my friend, as always. " I'm glad you were taking a break from working on this" LOL
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Re: Forumactif Edge - A Free Modern and Responsive Forum Theme
I would 've been translating it into Dutch, but now I won't. Sorry...
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