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Post by zims on June 4th 2020, 10:19 am

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When the problem appeared : when the sender cc to my gmail or personal email, it's always can be reached within few minutes. However, accepting through the webmail services always take much more time, and sometimes unreachable.
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Description of problem

The webmail forward and mailbox services are slow, and always behind more than a few hours. Hence, I would like to change the mailing services to others in the same domain name, is there any way to do this?
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Post by brandon_g on June 4th 2020, 5:54 pm

Hello,

What exactly do you mean by others in the same domain?

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Post by APE on June 4th 2020, 6:45 pm

Hello Smile

Webmail services is a service hosted on our side and the domain is linked to your forum by our host.
Sadly you can't link your account with any other service hosted outside of webmail.

If you have a problem where your Emails are not getting to you fast we can look in to this to see if we have a problem with the webmail services servers.


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Post by jucarese on June 4th 2020, 8:35 pm

No problem with webmail inbox:
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have you sent mass mailings ??? because if so, take longer to reach their destination
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Post by APE on June 5th 2020, 4:08 am

This might help you some also


Part you maybe interested in
3. Rredirects, what is that? How can I create them?


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Post by zims on June 5th 2020, 4:57 pm

@brandon_g wrote:Hello,

What exactly do you mean by others in the same domain?

-Brandon

Yes, I would like to using same domain but different e-mail service.
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Post by zims on June 5th 2020, 5:09 pm

@APE wrote:Hello Smile

Webmail services is a service hosted on our side and the domain is linked to your forum by our host.
Sadly you can't link your account with any other service hosted outside of webmail.

If you have a problem where your Emails are not getting to you fast we can look in to this to see if we have a problem with the webmail services servers.

Hi, it's constantly late for few hours. When it's come from some specific party, it took longer and never reach.
For now in order to overcome this problem, I can only ask them to cc my hotmail as a backup medthod. The Webmail services are taking ridiculous (3~5hours) longer time to reach in compare with my hotmail.

Definitely, please look on and see if any problem with the webmail services servers. It's an important issues for me and my members.
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Post by zims on June 5th 2020, 5:12 pm

@APE wrote:This might help you some also


Part you maybe interested in
3. Rredirects, what is that? How can I create them?

I tried webmail inbox and redirection, however, webmail inbox and redirection are both taking longer time when comparing the gmail and hotmail services using cc function.
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Post by zims on June 5th 2020, 5:17 pm

@jucarese wrote:No problem with webmail inbox:
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have you sent mass mailings ??? because if so, take longer to reach their destination

Even if mass mailing, it's not supposed to late 4++hours to reach in compare with my personal gmail and hotmail consistently .
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Post by SLGray on June 5th 2020, 9:39 pm

In the future, please use the multi-quote buttosn in topics to reply tp more than one post.


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Post by jucarese on June 5th 2020, 10:32 pm

@zims wrote:

Even if mass mailing, it's not supposed to late 4++hours to reach in compare with my personal gmail and hotmail consistently .
It is not just your mass. all emails from all forums at once and the mail server is saturated, with your gmail or hotmail from 50 emails already take time to send
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Post by APE on June 6th 2020, 2:01 am

Before I can report this are you sending one Email or a large number of Emails ?

Are you sending the Emails from Webmail or are you just receiving the Emails?

EDIT: I sent a Email to my self by webmail to hotmail and it took 2 seconds to get to me.
Sent from hotmail to webmail took 7 seconds This is fast for a outside server.
If it was a mass Email it would take some time as it is sent in a long queue.

news letters are also held in a server and sent oout in small numbers to stop the overload of our systems .


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Post by zims on June 6th 2020, 1:38 pm

@APE wrote:Before I can report this are you sending one Email or a large number of Emails ?

Are you sending the Emails from Webmail or are you just receiving the Emails?

EDIT: I sent a Email to my self by webmail to hotmail and it took 2 seconds to get to me.
Sent from hotmail to webmail took 7 seconds This is fast for a outside server.
If it was a mass Email it would take some time as it is sent in a long queue.

news letters are also held in a server and sent oout in small numbers to stop the overload of our systems .

I'm ussually not sending out email using my webmail, much of the time I'm only receiving emails from others parties, so I'm not sure if they're using what services or either they're mass sending or not.
I do acknowledge someday I would have receive like 10~12 email (which maybe a lot) to my mail box, but I don't think it will overload the system just by receiving 10~12 email a day.
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Post by APE on June 6th 2020, 8:05 pm

Well I have tested this tool (webmail) and it is working fine.
As there is no other reports of problems I am really not sure there is a big problem.

Sadly you can not use some other host to use your Address hosted by us on webmail.


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Post by zims on June 7th 2020, 5:47 am

@APE wrote:Well I have tested this tool (webmail) and it is working fine.
As there is no other reports of problems I am really not sure there is a big problem.

Sadly you can not use some other host to use your Address hosted by us on webmail.

It's usually okay when tested by me as well, however when receiving emails from other parties, this problem always comes out consistently, I know that it is an issue that hard to identify.
Thus, I would like to change host, since google is 100% no problem and always receive the email earlier in term of receiving the email from other parties.
I may consider transferring my domain name to another domain service such as google domain that owns by me, this may give me the authority to change the email host. However, I would like to know if they're a safe way to do this without risking losing my domain?
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Post by SLGray on June 7th 2020, 6:20 am

It will not change the webmail service.  External and Forumotion's domain names give the same webmail service.

Do you have it where you are in both boxes in the AP under webmail?  If yes, it will not work correctly.  You can only have it  in one of the boxes.  You can not create a webmail address and have a redirection.


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Post by zims on June 7th 2020, 6:44 am

@SLGray wrote:It will not change the webmail service.  External and Forumotion's domain names give the same webmail service.

I feel a little conflicted about what you said, from the wording of:
https://help.forumotion.com/t145950-how-to-setup-your-mailboxes-domain-purchased-by-forumotion-only
@APE wrote:Other domains purchased through over providers / Hosts will not get our mail system SORRY
It do sound like if domains purchased through over providers / Hosts are getting different mail system.


@SLGray wrote:Do you have it where you are in both boxes in the AP under webmail?  If yes, it will not work correctly.  You can only have it  in one of the boxes.  You can not create a webmail address and have a redirection.
Sorry, can you explain it more on"both boxes in the AP under webmail", I don't think I can understand clearly?
Maybe give a more specific example?

Like, I can't have:
email-of-my-forum@mydomain.com that redirect to mypersonal@hotmail.com and mypersonal@gmail.com?
meanwhile, having :
email-of-my-forum1@mydomain.com
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Post by APE on June 7th 2020, 4:10 pm

Webmail is hosted by us now no matter if you change address or not it will always be linked to our servers.

So say you go to Godaddy and get the following address >>
Code:
makemegod.com
Now you link this to your forum hosted by us on your ACP

Now what ever address you put in the webmail it will be the same. Webmail is still just a platform hosted by us.

The only real way to fix this is to stop using webmail and to use a Gmail account NOT linked to the forum what so ever.

BUT this is 100% upto you if you don't want to use the Webmail settings on your forum.


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Post by zims on June 7th 2020, 5:05 pm

@APE wrote:Webmail is hosted by us now no matter if you change address or not it will always be linked to our servers.

So say you go to Godaddy and get the following address >>
Code:
makemegod.com
Now you link this to your forum hosted by us on your ACP

Now what ever address you put in the webmail it will be the same. Webmail is still just a platform hosted by us.

The only real way to fix this is to stop using webmail and to use a Gmail account NOT linked to the forum what so ever.

BUT this is 100% upto you if you don't want to use the Webmail settings on your forum.

I just wanted to know what is the problem that making the late arriving an issues and if can be solved or not, I would prefer settle it by a way that remain my current domain name and email address without having need to tell my members that the address or domain was change.

if it's just because I setting it wrong and can fix easily, there have no need to go through this troubles.
It seems like it's having a possible easy fix, and I'm having a difficult time to understand it...
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Post by SLGray on June 7th 2020, 9:39 pm

https://help.forumotion.com/t145950-how-to-setup-your-mailboxes-domain-purchased-by-forumotion-only

When you create a webmail address, that email address can not be redirected. If you want to have a redirection, you have to only create an redirection.


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Post by zims on June 7th 2020, 9:56 pm

@SLGray wrote:https://help.forumotion.com/t145950-how-to-setup-your-mailboxes-domain-purchased-by-forumotion-only

When you create a webmail address, that email address can not be redirected. If you want to have a redirection, you have to only create an redirection.

not sure, if I get your meaning or not, but you mean that the same email address can't be in both webmail address and redirected correct?

Here is the example format set up currently by me:

webmail:
person1@mydomain.com
person2@mydomain.com
person3@mydomain.com
person4@mydomain.com
person5@mydomain.com

redirect:
department1@mydomain.com redirect to person1@mydomain.com & person2@mydomain.com
department2@mydomain.com redirect to person1@mydomain.com & person3@mydomain.com & person3@gmail.com
department3@mydomain.com redirect to person1@mydomain.com & person4@mydomain.com & person4@hotmail.com
department4@mydomain.com redirect to person1@mydomain.com & person5@mydomain.com
department5@mydomain.com redirect to person6@gmail.com & person7@hotmail.com

it this a wrong setting or not?
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Post by SLGray on June 7th 2020, 10:09 pm

Correct.

Example:

Webmail Address: slgray@help.com

You can not have a redirection like: slgray@help.com to slgray@gmail.com


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Post by zims on June 7th 2020, 10:29 pm

@SLGray wrote:Correct.

Example:

Webmail Address: slgray@help.com

You can not have a redirection like: slgray@help.com to slgray@gmail.com

I see I have no this type of redirection. So just to confirm here, I'm facing an issue that we can't identify, and there has no possible way that my issue can get better or fix from here. Are my interpretation of the situation here correct?

If that's the case, I'm thinking if I can get EPP code and get my domain name unlock, transfer it to Google domain, and use G-suite e-mail services and forwarding system provided by them, while remaining my forum as the same domain name.

Is it possible to do that without any interruption when the domain name almost expire? if yes, what is the step?
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Post by brandon_g on June 7th 2020, 11:37 pm

If you bought the domain through us, then I am afraid this isn't possible. Forumotion Domain names are locked to our service and can not be transferred to any other host.

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Post by SLGray on June 8th 2020, 1:53 am

After the discussion through PM's. it could be that the issue is caused by the customized emails going to webmail.  I mean the ones you receive from businesses.


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Post by zims on June 8th 2020, 1:55 am

@SLGray wrote:After the discussion through PM's. it could be that the issue is caused by the customized emails going to webmail.  I mean the ones you receive from businesses.

So, is there any possible fixes or anythings else we can look into it?
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Post by SLGray on June 13th 2020, 1:26 am

I have created a ticket for the head office (France).


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Post by zims on June 15th 2020, 10:37 pm

@SLGray wrote:I have created a ticket for the head office (France).

Thank you for taking this seriously.
Just FYI, just today that I got an email extremely late which it should come at 10 am and it redirected to my email 1 am next day.
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Post by SLGray on June 16th 2020, 2:57 am

Update:  The head office has seen the ticket and marked it in progress.


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Post by SLGray on June 30th 2020, 8:02 pm

@zims are you still having issues with this?


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